Beat-down in Portland... (Trump angst)

[Steve James]

Are they part of the anit-Trump supporters, or part of their lot?

Definitely part of their lot. Not worse than mass murder.

[grzegorz]

Perhaps if we had a president who actually tried to unite the country this would all stop. Yes, I am playing devil's advocate. Everyone is entitled to their opinion but just as I would get beat down if I were to show up at skinhead rally it goes without saying that the same could happen in any counter protest where tensions and emotions are running high. I am not saying this is right, in fact far from it what I am saying is don't attend any counter protest no matter which side you are on.

Thanks for posting, I was wondering why my conservative friends are all freaking out on facebook. I will say that this is just the beginning my friends. This sh*t is going to get uglier. I just about this incident passing through LA. There a lot of crazy people out there and they are filled with anger and hate. Stay safe my friends.

Korean grandma attacked by woman shouting white power

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... power.html

You're not playing devil's advocate. It is a thinly veiled justification. Right now, it is the anti-trump vitriol and violence that is creating the serious divisions. Intelligent debate has been replaced with the nonsense you and these people spout.

I watched two journalists discuss Trump. Neither supported him or his ideas, yet onlh one was capable of having an intelligent discussion; the other was too busy spouting hatred and was completely incapable of discussing the topic rationally. The anti-Trump mob are a disgrace and their behaviour is far worse than anything trump and his lot have done.

So the burning and shooting up of Mosques by known Trump supporters were actually Hillary supporters? Nice alternative facts...

[leifeng]

Millitant leftists are more dangerous than the fascists and they have killed many more people. It seems Trump has awakened these two dragons of the 20th century. History repeats itself and we never learn.

[grzegorz]

Libtard? LOL!

Tell us how you really Phil...

Here is some porn for you. These beat downs are nothing new. If you do go to a counter protest take a hard hat with you.



https://youtu.be/2qOcyLlo3cU

[grzegorz]

Millitant leftists are more dangerous than the fascists and they have killed many more people. It seems Trump has awakened these two dragons of the 20th century. History repeats itself and we never learn.

Comparing the numbers of Hitler, Stalin and Mao?

All were totalitarian rulers I don't think of any of them as leftists per say and all were extremely nationalistic.

Please cite your sources.

[grzegorz]

Why is it that people who use the word "libtard" are the ones who generally display cognitive deficiencies?

Good post. I think the issue is conservatives don't realize that when you get a higher education you have to create a thesis and defend it therefore at some point in life you gain the ability to filter out fake news and defend your views based on facts. I see a lot of conservatives going nuts on FBI and when they can't argue they just call you a liberal or post a photo of a gun and move on.

[phil b]

Philb, your post included Greg's post about the Korean woman to make a point. You wrote:

Then, you shouldn't have included it in your response. I know what you want to focus on is anti-Trump (and anti-Trump policy) violence. I just tried to make the point that being outraged at violence shouldn't depend on who's being violated. I.e., condemn both and we can agree.

I don't post much so editing the post to aid those who don't read the post properly wasn't on my list. Sorry!

Why is it that people who use the word "libtard" are the ones who generally display cognitive deficiencies?

Highly educated adults – particularly those who have attended graduate school – are far more likely than those with less education to take predominantly liberal positions across a range of political values.

Why is it that people who use the word "libtard" are the ones who generally display cognitive deficiencies?

Good post. I think the issue is conservatives don't realize that when you get a higher education you have to create a thesis and defend it therefore at some point in life you gain the ability to filter out fake news and defend your views based on facts. I see a lot of conservatives going nuts on FBI and when they can't argue they just call you a liberal or post a photo of a gun and move on.

I assume you two are questioning my educational level. Feel free to make your assumptions.

So the burning and shooting up of Mosques by known Trump supporters were actually Hillary supporters? Nice alternative facts...

I made no such statement. That you present alternative facts and accuse me of it is amusing. Perhaps it isn't my education that needs examining.

[phil b]

My point is, was, and remains:

There is an excessive amount of skewed, incomplete, and even dishonest reporting with regards to the Trump situation. Acceptance of violence and militant behaviour that flies in the face of the values citizens of the U.S. claim to hold dear shows a serious problem.

The fact that some here on this board immediately attack those that challenge their blind acceptance of 'media facts' shows just how bad things are.

I don't support Trump, but I feel that the media needn't misrepresent the situation.

[grzegorz]

No one is making fun or questioning your education or attacking you as Wind stated.

But if you are going to walk into this bar and insult people before you even know where the John is you are going to pay the price.

Getting back to me. Nothing was thinly veiled what I am saying is don't protest anything unless you are willing to sacrifice Iife and limb for your cause.

[grzegorz]

Speaking of beat downs Trump predicted the Patriots would win....but as with everything he touches everything is going to crap.

[Steve James]

There is an excessive amount of skewed, incomplete, and even dishonest reporting with regards to the Trump situation.

I don't know what the Trump situation is. I don't care at all about Trump "angst" because I don't have it. Didn't have it before the election.

Actually, I totally agree that there's been an exaggerated reaction by many to Trump's presidency. I think it's misguided, for lots of reasons, but I think it's the same as the Tea Party reaction after Obama's election. I said it years ago when it happened. The level of disrespect shown by Trump, in particular, and others, will just be turned around. So, although, I might totally disagree with their actions, I have little sympathy for Trump or anything said about him. Having lived through 8 years of Fox news, I have no concern for those who complain about "unfair" news. And, afa the media, those who don't like the MSM just watch the "alt" media outlets anyway.

Now, afa his "supporters" (tm), I have nothing but compassion for them. I get that they think that the politicians and Wall Street don't care for them. I just think they've voted (:)) for someone who isn't doing anything for them. Rather, as he's found a way to put people at each other's throats. Marx would say it's the working class against the working class (and unemployed) for the benefit of the rich guys. Show me how that's not the case.

I'm not gonna fall into the sucker "left v right," "Dem v Rep" trap. SOS.

[grzegorz]

Than you Steve that is exactly what I am saying. Just as the right feels no need to apologize for the massacre at the Mosque in Canada I am definitely not going to be an apologist for people rioting in the streets which why I say if you show up to a counter protest then you should accept that some people aren't going to be too happy to see you.

I apply this to myself as well. As much as I would like to wear a Dump Trump t-shirt I know that it isn't likely to lead to anything positive. But give it a year and no one will care because like W before no conservative will be defending Trump years from now.

[windwalker]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XCEmk-U57zo

[phil b]

No one is making fun or questioning your education or attacking you as Wind stated.

But if you are going to walk into this bar and insult people before you even know where the John is you are going to pay the price.

Two posts questioning educational level and that's not what it looks like… OK if you say so.

If you can show me where I directly insulted you, that would be sweet. Good luck with that.

[Michael]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XCEmk-U57zo

I watched that vid this morning and the part at the end where he mentions Der Spiegel's meme of Trump as a jihadist beheading Lady Liberty is a pretty good example of the overreaction to Trump.