Milo Out!

[Ian C. Kuzushi]

I have read that Trump has already spent more on vacations than Obama did in 8 years. Is that really possible? Or just some misinformation floating about. At any rate, no one will be able to take as much vacation as Bush Jr. I didn't like his politics, but I would love to party with that guy.

[grzegorz]

[grzegorz]

Black Block shows up at a White Supremist rally in Sacramento



https://youtu.be/FCPVlw92UdU

[windwalker]

Black Block shows up at a White Supremist rally in Sacramento

https://youtu.be/FCPVlw92UdU

caption under the clip

Multiple people were stabbed after clashes broke out between far-right activists from the Traditionalist Worker Party and counter-protesters outside State Capitol in Sacramento, California, Sunday.

Do you approve or disapprove of their right to demonstrate,
do you approve or disapprove of the actions taken to prevent it ?

[Steve James]

Do you approve or disapprove of their right to demonstrate,
do you approve or disapprove of the actions taken to prevent it ?

What do you think?

[windwalker]

Do you approve or disapprove of their right to demonstrate,
do you approve or disapprove of the actions taken to prevent it ?

What do you think?

didn't post the clip.
what do you think?

[grzegorz]

Clip posted without comment.



I am simply pointing out that it wasn't UC Berkeley students and your typical Prius driving liberals that shut down the speaking engagement.

[Steve James]

"Feb. 24 was Trump's day for cutting an honest, displeasing press down to size. The same day, his press secretary, Sean Spicer, barred reporters from The New York Times, the Los Angeles Times, CNN, BBC News, POLITICO and BuzzFeed from a briefing, while taking pains to include representatives of three low-circulation right-wing outfits: Breitbart, The Washington Times, and the One America News Network. Spicer told the approved reporters that the goal was to 'push aggressively back.'

Make no mistake: such remarks from Spicer and Kellyanne Conway as well as the Bully-in-Chief are not throwaway lines. This crowd means to intimidate dissenters and to exhibit them as bogeymen. They mean to stick it to truth-tellers. They may not mean to directly incite legions of trolls, but they have that effect." - Todd Gitlin

This means dig deeper. Oh, if Obama had done this. Of course, forget about today; it does set a precedent. If it's ok, the Obama should have done it. If not, and it continues, then surely the future presidents will.

[windwalker]

This means dig deeper. Oh, if Obama had done this. Of course, forget about today; it does set a precedent. If it's ok, the Obama should have done it. If not, and it continues, then surely the future presidents will.

yep it sure does, he did and it has....Thanks "Obama"

AWFUL! Barack Obama Announces Plan to CENSOR Fox News (MUST READ)

Read more: http://thepoliticalinsider.com/barack-o ... z4ZvgKZWkK

(CNN) – President Obama is pulling no punches when it comes to Fox News, declaring the cable news outlet to be "destructive to [America's] long-term growth."

In a more than 8,000-word interview with Rolling Stone Magazine, Obama compared the cable news channel to papers owned by William Randolph Hearst at the turn of the 20th century that unabashedly pushed the media titan's own political views.

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/20 ... o-america/

Just wondered if any here commented on this back then...even a little

[Steve James]

Few here (on RSF) defended "FAUX" news then, but there were more than some who agreed, and expressed the FOX news viewpoint --for example, the socialist born in Kenya news. So, you're wrong (again) nyah, nyah, nyah: some here did complain about Obama trying to repress FOX.

Of course, his press secretary did allow FOX news into press briefings. But, that's just trivia, I know. Anyway, you must think Obama was right for doing it. I agree. He should have been strong, like DJT.

[grzegorz]

Yet he never stopped them from doing their job.

[windwalker]

Anyway, you must think Obama was right for doing it. I agree. He should have been strong, like DJT.

Only pointing out Obama, did more and then some.
Don't remember, people posting much about it.

Just as in some of the other postings by some, "Wake up and smell the facism!" excuses
are made when its shown not to be.....kinda like fake news....

[Steve James]

Only pointing out Obama, did more and then some.

BS. You weren't "only" doing anything. If you had the intestinal fortitude, you'd just say whether you agreed or disagreed. And, I have no idea what you mean by "and then some." Some of what? Is that "what" good or bad? Or, are you just responding in a knee jerk fashion and simply can't admit that something Team Trump does is wrong?

Don't remember, people posting much about it.

Ha, ha, that's the point dude. YOU didn't say anything about it one way or the other. Did you? Why not? Who are you to be pointing fingers or criticizing people for doing something you didn't do?

[grzegorz]

LOL!

I love how all these Trumpeters keep saying Obama did it. At work I lost it on a supervisor and said who gives a f*** Obama is not the president.

He too fell for the lie that Obama had a ban on Iraqis. Which was not true. As a result of all the lives lost at Bowling Green, never forget, Obama tightened up the vetting procedure on Iraqis but since Iraqis are our allies in fight against IS they are still allowed to come here in fact most who do come work for the US military often as translators. Yeah, f*** them! Right!

Criticizing the media is one thing but shutting them out and treating the others as special reminds me of the stuff child molesting Kung fu cult leaders do. Those other reporters should have walked out on Sean Sphincter, which is now how I will always refer to him this day forward.

As to fake news. Don Lemon defines it best since the Trumpeters now refer to all news they dislike as fake news it is good to refer to a journalist on the true definition.



https://youtu.be/hgseIp1t5R8

[Steve James]

Just as in some of the other postings by some, "Wake up and smell the facism!" excuses
are made when its shown not to be.....kinda like fake news....

Ha, not at all. On that thread, there were those who pointed out the exaggeration immediately, and those who agreed with that criticism. They also disagreed with logic, not "the other guy did it" or other such juvenile responses. And, they pointed out that the exaggeration would only be used by counter-trolls to generalize about them, just as you've shown.

My own criticism would be the same as it has been for "racist" and "racism." There is no real discussion of what facism is or whether it is or isn't worse than other forms of political repression. Creating laws against particular groups or specific people doesn't have to be facism to be wrong or immoral. Besides, facism (a la Roman empire) is not like Nazism except in its desire for imperial conquests. Roman facism is more like American slavery and/or the class/caste/race system of Jim Crow. And, neither forms of facism were like the communism of Stalin's time.

My point is that it's useless to debate the use of words. So, even though I agree that the word facist may be misused in the title, I can get over that and discuss the issue of mass interrogations or surveillance, for ex.