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Re: Sweden's Immigration Policy

Postby Bao on Wed Mar 28, 2018 9:08 am

Wow! You were right Michael, the muslims are taking over!!! Now the authorities has forbidden public christmas celebration. No Christmas trees allowed in public to not offend Islam! :o :o :o


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XXlUuDlN3qI


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ryjpu-NWYm8


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ghD3p67yNdo

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Re: Sweden's Immigration Policy

Postby Michael on Wed Mar 28, 2018 9:54 am

That's tremendous, Bao. Maybe I'll catch a laugh if I get around to watching those videos. I'm sure they're totally relevant and up to date.
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Re: Sweden's Immigration Policy

Postby grzegorz on Wed Mar 28, 2018 2:08 pm

Bao wrote:Wow! You were right Michael, the muslims are taking over!!! Now the authorities has forbidden public christmas celebration. No Christmas trees allowed in public to not offend Islam! :o :o :o


A lie will travel around the world before the truth can put its pants on.

As long as the oligarchs and billionaires have us fighting amongst ourselves they don't have to worry about us fighting against them.

Watch "3rd mosque attacked in Sweden in a week, violence rises vs Muslims" on YouTube

https://youtu.be/y8simnEbAxE
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Re: Sweden's Immigration Policy

Postby grzegorz on Mon Apr 09, 2018 10:37 pm

From Reuters but still no Sweden.


SAT APR 7, 2018 / 12:29 PM EDT

Factbox: Deadly attacks in Western Europe

Reuters Staff

April 7, 2018 - A man drives a van into a group of people sitting outside a restaurant in the old city center of Muenster in Germany, killing several of them before taking his own life, police say, a year to the day after the Stockholm truck attack.

March 23, 2018 - A gunman kills three people in southwestern France after holding up a car, firing on police and taking hostages in a supermarket, screaming "Allahu Akbar". Security forces storm the building and kill him.

Aug. 17, 2017 - A van ploughs into crowds in the heart of Barcelona, killing at least 13 people, a regional official says, in what police said they were treating as a terrorist attack.

June 3, 2017 - Three attackers ram a van into pedestrians on London Bridge then stab revelers in nearby bars, killing eight people and injuring at least 48. Islamic State says its militants are responsible.

May 22, 2017 - A suicide bomber kills 22 children and adults and wounds 59 at a packed concert hall in the English city of Manchester, as crowds began leaving a concert by U.S. singer Ariana Grande.

April 7, 2017 - A truck drives into a crowd on a shopping street and crashes into a department store in central Stockholm, killing five people and wounding 15 in what police call a terrorist attack.

March 22, 2017 - An attacker stabs a policeman close to the British parliament in London after a car ploughs into pedestrians on nearby Westminster Bridge. Six people die, including the assailant and the policeman he stabbed, and at least 20 are injured in what police call a "marauding terrorist attack".

Dec. 19, 2016 - A truck ploughs into a crowded Christmas market in central Berlin, killing 12 people and injuring 48. German Chancellor Angela Merkel says authorities are assuming it was a terrorist attack.

July 26, 2016 - Two attackers kill a priest with a blade and seriously wound another hostage in a church in northern France before being shot dead by French police. French President Francois Hollande says the two hostage-takers had pledged allegiance to Islamic State.

July 24, 2016 - A Syrian man wounds 15 people when he blows himself up outside a music festival in Ansbach in southern Germany. Islamic State claims responsibility.

July 22, 2016 - An 18-year-old German-Iranian gunman apparently acting alone kills at least nine people in Munich. The teenager had no Islamist ties but was obsessed with mass killings. The attack was carried out on the fifth anniversary of twin attacks by Norwegian mass murderer Anders Breivik that killed 77 people.

July 18, 2016 - A 17-year-old Afghan refugee wielding an axe and a knife attacks passengers on a train in southern Germany, severely wounding four, before being shot dead by police. Islamic State claims responsibility.

July 14, 2016 - A gunman drives a heavy truck into a crowd celebrating Bastille Day in the French city of Nice, killing 86 people and injuring scores more in an attack claimed by Islamic State. The attacker is identified as a Tunisian-born Frenchman.

June 14, 2016 - A Frenchman of Moroccan origin stabs a police commander to death outside his home in a Paris suburb and kills his partner, who also worked for the police. The attacker told police negotiators during a siege that he was answering an appeal by Islamic State.

March 22, 2016 - Three Islamic State suicide bombers, all Belgian nationals, blow themselves up at Brussels airport and in a metro train in the Belgian capital, killing 32 people. Police find links with attacks in Paris the previous November.

Nov. 13, 2015 - Paris is rocked by multiple, near simultaneous gun-and-bomb attacks on entertainment sites around the city, in which 130 people die and 368 are wounded. Islamic State claims responsibility. Two of the 10 known perpetrators were Belgian citizens and three others were French.

Jan. 7-9, 2015 - Two Islamist militants break into an editorial meeting of satirical weekly Charlie Hebdo on Jan. 7 and rake it with bullets, killing 17. Another militant kills a policewoman the next day and takes hostages at a supermarket on Jan. 9, killing four before police shoot him dead.

May 24, 2014 - Four people are killed in a shooting at the Jewish Museum in central Brussels. The attacker was French national Mehdi Nemmouche, 29, who was subsequently arrested in Marseille, France. Extradited, he is awaiting trial in Belgium.

(Editing by John Stonestreet and Hugh Lawson)

https://mobile.reuters.com/article/amp/idUSKBN1HE0ND
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Re: Sweden's Immigration Policy

Postby Bao on Tue Apr 10, 2018 12:25 am

grzegorz wrote:From Reuters but still no Sweden.


SAT APR 7, 2018 / 12:29 PM EDT

Factbox: Deadly attacks in Western Europe

Reuters Staff

April 7, 2018 - A man drives a van into a group of people sitting outside a restaurant in the old city center of Muenster in Germany, killing several of them before taking his own life, police say, a year to the day after the Stockholm truck attack.

March 23, 2018 - A gunman kills three people in southwestern France after holding up a car, firing on police and taking hostages in a supermarket, screaming "Allahu Akbar". Security forces storm the building and kill him.

Aug. 17, 2017 - A van ploughs into crowds in the heart of Barcelona, killing at least 13 people, a regional official says, in what police said they were treating as a terrorist attack.

June 3, 2017 - Three attackers ram a van into pedestrians on London Bridge then stab revelers in nearby bars, killing eight people and injuring at least 48. Islamic State says its militants are responsible.

May 22, 2017 - A suicide bomber kills 22 children and adults and wounds 59 at a packed concert hall in the English city of Manchester, as crowds began leaving a concert by U.S. singer Ariana Grande.

April 7, 2017 - A truck drives into a crowd on a shopping street and crashes into a department store in central Stockholm, killing five people and wounding 15 in what police call a terrorist attack.

March 22, 2017 - An attacker stabs a policeman close to the British parliament in London after a car ploughs into pedestrians on nearby Westminster Bridge. Six people die, including the assailant and the policeman he stabbed, and at least 20 are injured in what police call a "marauding terrorist attack".

Dec. 19, 2016 - A truck ploughs into a crowded Christmas market in central Berlin, killing 12 people and injuring 48. German Chancellor Angela Merkel says authorities are assuming it was a terrorist attack.

July 26, 2016 - Two attackers kill a priest with a blade and seriously wound another hostage in a church in northern France before being shot dead by French police. French President Francois Hollande says the two hostage-takers had pledged allegiance to Islamic State.

July 24, 2016 - A Syrian man wounds 15 people when he blows himself up outside a music festival in Ansbach in southern Germany. Islamic State claims responsibility.

July 22, 2016 - An 18-year-old German-Iranian gunman apparently acting alone kills at least nine people in Munich. The teenager had no Islamist ties but was obsessed with mass killings. The attack was carried out on the fifth anniversary of twin attacks by Norwegian mass murderer Anders Breivik that killed 77 people.

July 18, 2016 - A 17-year-old Afghan refugee wielding an axe and a knife attacks passengers on a train in southern Germany, severely wounding four, before being shot dead by police. Islamic State claims responsibility.

July 14, 2016 - A gunman drives a heavy truck into a crowd celebrating Bastille Day in the French city of Nice, killing 86 people and injuring scores more in an attack claimed by Islamic State. The attacker is identified as a Tunisian-born Frenchman.

June 14, 2016 - A Frenchman of Moroccan origin stabs a police commander to death outside his home in a Paris suburb and kills his partner, who also worked for the police. The attacker told police negotiators during a siege that he was answering an appeal by Islamic State.

March 22, 2016 - Three Islamic State suicide bombers, all Belgian nationals, blow themselves up at Brussels airport and in a metro train in the Belgian capital, killing 32 people. Police find links with attacks in Paris the previous November.

Nov. 13, 2015 - Paris is rocked by multiple, near simultaneous gun-and-bomb attacks on entertainment sites around the city, in which 130 people die and 368 are wounded. Islamic State claims responsibility. Two of the 10 known perpetrators were Belgian citizens and three others were French.

Jan. 7-9, 2015 - Two Islamist militants break into an editorial meeting of satirical weekly Charlie Hebdo on Jan. 7 and rake it with bullets, killing 17. Another militant kills a policewoman the next day and takes hostages at a supermarket on Jan. 9, killing four before police shoot him dead.

May 24, 2014 - Four people are killed in a shooting at the Jewish Museum in central Brussels. The attacker was French national Mehdi Nemmouche, 29, who was subsequently arrested in Marseille, France. Extradited, he is awaiting trial in Belgium.

(Editing by John Stonestreet and Hugh Lawson)

https://mobile.reuters.com/article/amp/idUSKBN1HE0ND


Yes there is. One. Apr 7. I highlighted it for you. (I resided in a hotel two blocks away when it happened. It was my sons birthday, so we decided to have a nice day in the capital. We found ourselves locked in the hotel all day and the whole city was closed down.)

In dec 2010, there was a very amateurish terrorist who thankfully blowed himself up in a small street near the same apartment store. No other casualties. (I worked in a travel agency two blocks away when that happened. I seem to always be near when strange things happen. :P :-\ )
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Re: Sweden's Immigration Policy

Postby Trick on Tue Apr 10, 2018 1:52 am

grzegorz wrote:From Reuters but still no Sweden.


SAT APR 7, 2018 / 12:29 PM EDT

Factbox: Deadly attacks in Western Europe

Reuters Staff

April 7, 2018 - A man drives a van into a group of people sitting outside a restaurant in the old city center of Muenster in Germany, killing several of them before taking his own life, police say, a year to the day after the Stockholm truck attack.

March 23, 2018 - A gunman kills three people in southwestern France after holding up a car, firing on police and taking hostages in a supermarket, screaming "Allahu Akbar". Security forces storm the building and kill him.

Aug. 17, 2017 - A van ploughs into crowds in the heart of Barcelona, killing at least 13 people, a regional official says, in what police said they were treating as a terrorist attack.

June 3, 2017 - Three attackers ram a van into pedestrians on London Bridge then stab revelers in nearby bars, killing eight people and injuring at least 48. Islamic State says its militants are responsible.

May 22, 2017 - A suicide bomber kills 22 children and adults and wounds 59 at a packed concert hall in the English city of Manchester, as crowds began leaving a concert by U.S. singer Ariana Grande.

April 7, 2017 - A truck drives into a crowd on a shopping street and crashes into a department store in central Stockholm, killing five people and wounding 15 in what police call a terrorist attack.

March 22, 2017 - An attacker stabs a policeman close to the British parliament in London after a car ploughs into pedestrians on nearby Westminster Bridge. Six people die, including the assailant and the policeman he stabbed, and at least 20 are injured in what police call a "marauding terrorist attack".

Dec. 19, 2016 - A truck ploughs into a crowded Christmas market in central Berlin, killing 12 people and injuring 48. German Chancellor Angela Merkel says authorities are assuming it was a terrorist attack.

July 26, 2016 - Two attackers kill a priest with a blade and seriously wound another hostage in a church in northern France before being shot dead by French police. French President Francois Hollande says the two hostage-takers had pledged allegiance to Islamic State.

July 24, 2016 - A Syrian man wounds 15 people when he blows himself up outside a music festival in Ansbach in southern Germany. Islamic State claims responsibility.

July 22, 2016 - An 18-year-old German-Iranian gunman apparently acting alone kills at least nine people in Munich. The teenager had no Islamist ties but was obsessed with mass killings. The attack was carried out on the fifth anniversary of twin attacks by Norwegian mass murderer Anders Breivik that killed 77 people.

July 18, 2016 - A 17-year-old Afghan refugee wielding an axe and a knife attacks passengers on a train in southern Germany, severely wounding four, before being shot dead by police. Islamic State claims responsibility.

July 14, 2016 - A gunman drives a heavy truck into a crowd celebrating Bastille Day in the French city of Nice, killing 86 people and injuring scores more in an attack claimed by Islamic State. The attacker is identified as a Tunisian-born Frenchman.

June 14, 2016 - A Frenchman of Moroccan origin stabs a police commander to death outside his home in a Paris suburb and kills his partner, who also worked for the police. The attacker told police negotiators during a siege that he was answering an appeal by Islamic State.

March 22, 2016 - Three Islamic State suicide bombers, all Belgian nationals, blow themselves up at Brussels airport and in a metro train in the Belgian capital, killing 32 people. Police find links with attacks in Paris the previous November.

Nov. 13, 2015 - Paris is rocked by multiple, near simultaneous gun-and-bomb attacks on entertainment sites around the city, in which 130 people die and 368 are wounded. Islamic State claims responsibility. Two of the 10 known perpetrators were Belgian citizens and three others were French.

Jan. 7-9, 2015 - Two Islamist militants break into an editorial meeting of satirical weekly Charlie Hebdo on Jan. 7 and rake it with bullets, killing 17. Another militant kills a policewoman the next day and takes hostages at a supermarket on Jan. 9, killing four before police shoot him dead.

May 24, 2014 - Four people are killed in a shooting at the Jewish Museum in central Brussels. The attacker was French national Mehdi Nemmouche, 29, who was subsequently arrested in Marseille, France. Extradited, he is awaiting trial in Belgium.

(Editing by John Stonestreet and Hugh Lawson)

https://mobile.reuters.com/article/amp/idUSKBN1HE0ND

That's a long list of recent acts of terror, so much as it numbs the brain a little, it has become a " usual thing" in our everyday lives. But Bao managed to spot the one terror act on Swedish ground on the list, and if I'm not misremembering there was Swedish citizens involved in the 2015 attacks in Paris
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Re: Sweden's Immigration Policy

Postby RobP3 on Tue Apr 10, 2018 2:00 am

Trick wrote:[]

That's a long list of recent acts of terror, so much as it numbs the brain a little, it has become a " usual thing" in our everyday lives. But Bao managed to spot the one terror act on Swedish ground on the list, and if I'm not misremembering there was Swedish citizens involved in the 2015 attacks in Paris[/quote]

All terrible stuff for sure, but in the UK it's been worse, and a "usual thing" before. I hope we start to see a decline now, in any case

1971, 12 January: Two bombs exploded at the house of government minister Robert Carr. This attack was one of 25 carried out by the Angry Brigade between August 1970 and August 1971. The Bomb Squad was established at Scotland Yard in January 1971 to target the group, and they were apprehended in August of that year.[14][15]
1971, 31 October: A bomb exploded in the Post Office Tower in London causing extensive damage but no injuries. The "Kilburn Battalion" of the IRA claimed responsibility for the explosion but The Angry Brigade also claimed to have carried out the attack. It's likely it was the work of the Angry Brigade and not the IRA.[16]
1972, 22 February: Aldershot bombing: The Official Irish Republican Army ('Official' IRA) detonated a car bomb at Aldershot British Army base, Hampshire. The blast killed seven civilian staff.
1972, 19 September: The group Black September posted a letter bomb to the Israeli embassy in London killing an Israeli diplomat.[17] [18]
1973, 8 March: The Provisional Irish Republican Army ('Provisional' IRA) planted four car bombs in London. Two of the bombs exploded outside the Old Bailey and the Ministry of Agriculture, injuring dozens. The bombs outside New Scotland Yard and an army recruitment office near Whitehall were defused.
1973, 10 September: The Provisional IRA set off bombs at London's King's Cross and Euston stations, injuring 21 people.[19]
1974, 4 February: M62 coach bombing: An IRA bomb exploded aboard a bus carrying British soldiers and several of their family members in Yorkshire, killing nine soldiers and three civilians.
1974, 17 June: An IRA bomb exploded at the Houses of Parliament, causing extensive damage and injuring 11 people.[20]
1974 17 July Tower of London 1 dead 41 injured several badly injured
1974, 5 October: Guildford pub bombings: IRA bombs exploded in two pubs frequented by British military personnel in Guildford, Surrey. Four soldiers and a civilian were killed and 44 injured.
1974, 22 October: An IRA bomb exploded in Brooks's gentleman's club in London, injuring three people.[21]
1974, 7 November: An IRA bomb exploded in a pub frequented by British military personnel in Woolwich, London, killing a soldier and a civilian.
1974, 14 November: James Patrick McDade, Lieutenant in the Birmingham Battalion, of the Provisional Irish Republican Army (IRA) was killed in a premature explosion whilst planting a bomb at the Coventry telephone exchange in 1974.
1974, 21 November: Birmingham pub bombings: IRA bombs exploded in two pubs in Birmingham, killing 21 people and injuring 182.
1974, 18 December: Bomb planted by IRA in the run up to Christmas in one of Bristol's most popular shopping districts explodes injuring 17 people.[22]
1975, 27 August: An IRA bomb explodes in a pub frequented by British military personnel in Caterham, Surrey, injuring 33.[23]
1975, 5 September: An IRA bomb exploded in the lobby of the Hilton Hotel, London, killing two people and injuring 63.
1975, 18 November: IRA members threw a bomb into Walton's restaurant in London, killing two people and injuring 23.
1975, 27 November: IRA gunmen assassinated political activist and television personality Ross McWhirter in Enfield Town, London.[24]
1975, 6–12 December: Balcombe Street siege: Four IRA members, who were fleeing from the police, barricaded themselves inside a flat in London and held the two occupants hostage. The siege lasted for six days and ended when the IRA members surrendered and released the hostages.
1975, 20 December: The Ulster Defence Association (UDA) bombed Biddy Mulligan's pub in the Kilburn area of London. Five people were injured. It said it bombed the pub because it was frequented by Irish republican sympathizers.[25]
1978, 17 December: IRA bombs explode in Manchester, Liverpool, Coventry, Bristol and Southampton, injuring seven in Bristol.[26]
1979, 17 January: A bomb exploded at a Texaco oil terminal on Canvey Island, Essex, tearing a hole in a tank that was initially thought to contain aviation fuel.[27][28]
1979, 17 February: The Ulster Volunteer Force (UVF) bombed two pubs frequented by Catholics in Glasgow, Scotland. Both pubs were wrecked and a number of people were wounded. It said it bombed the pubs because they were used for Irish republican fundraising.[29]
1979, 30 March: Airey Neave killed when a bomb exploded under his car as he drove out of the Palace of Westminster car park. The Irish National Liberation Army (INLA) claimed responsibility.
1980s
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Re: Sweden's Immigration Policy

Postby Trick on Tue Apr 10, 2018 2:48 am

RobP3 wrote:
Trick wrote:[]

That's a long list of recent acts of terror, so much as it numbs the brain a little, it has become a " usual thing" in our everyday lives. But Bao managed to spot the one terror act on Swedish ground on the list, and if I'm not misremembering there was Swedish citizens involved in the 2015 attacks in Paris


All terrible stuff for sure, but in the UK it's been worse, and a "usual thing" before. I hope we start to see a decline now, in any case

1971, 12 January: Two bombs exploded at the house of government minister Robert Carr. This attack was one of 25 carried out by the Angry Brigade between August 1970 and August 1971. The Bomb Squad was established at Scotland Yard in January 1971 to target the group, and they were apprehended in August of that year.[14][15]
1971, 31 October: A bomb exploded in the Post Office Tower in London causing extensive damage but no injuries. The "Kilburn Battalion" of the IRA claimed responsibility for the explosion but The Angry Brigade also claimed to have carried out the attack. It's likely it was the work of the Angry Brigade and not the IRA.[16]
1972, 22 February: Aldershot bombing: The Official Irish Republican Army ('Official' IRA) detonated a car bomb at Aldershot British Army base, Hampshire. The blast killed seven civilian staff.
1972, 19 September: The group Black September posted a letter bomb to the Israeli embassy in London killing an Israeli diplomat.[17] [18]
1973, 8 March: The Provisional Irish Republican Army ('Provisional' IRA) planted four car bombs in London. Two of the bombs exploded outside the Old Bailey and the Ministry of Agriculture, injuring dozens. The bombs outside New Scotland Yard and an army recruitment office near Whitehall were defused.
1973, 10 September: The Provisional IRA set off bombs at London's King's Cross and Euston stations, injuring 21 people.[19]
1974, 4 February: M62 coach bombing: An IRA bomb exploded aboard a bus carrying British soldiers and several of their family members in Yorkshire, killing nine soldiers and three civilians.
1974, 17 June: An IRA bomb exploded at the Houses of Parliament, causing extensive damage and injuring 11 people.[20]
1974 17 July Tower of London 1 dead 41 injured several badly injured
1974, 5 October: Guildford pub bombings: IRA bombs exploded in two pubs frequented by British military personnel in Guildford, Surrey. Four soldiers and a civilian were killed and 44 injured.
1974, 22 October: An IRA bomb exploded in Brooks's gentleman's club in London, injuring three people.[21]
1974, 7 November: An IRA bomb exploded in a pub frequented by British military personnel in Woolwich, London, killing a soldier and a civilian.
1974, 14 November: James Patrick McDade, Lieutenant in the Birmingham Battalion, of the Provisional Irish Republican Army (IRA) was killed in a premature explosion whilst planting a bomb at the Coventry telephone exchange in 1974.
1974, 21 November: Birmingham pub bombings: IRA bombs exploded in two pubs in Birmingham, killing 21 people and injuring 182.
1974, 18 December: Bomb planted by IRA in the run up to Christmas in one of Bristol's most popular shopping districts explodes injuring 17 people.[22]
1975, 27 August: An IRA bomb explodes in a pub frequented by British military personnel in Caterham, Surrey, injuring 33.[23]
1975, 5 September: An IRA bomb exploded in the lobby of the Hilton Hotel, London, killing two people and injuring 63.
1975, 18 November: IRA members threw a bomb into Walton's restaurant in London, killing two people and injuring 23.
1975, 27 November: IRA gunmen assassinated political activist and television personality Ross McWhirter in Enfield Town, London.[24]
1975, 6–12 December: Balcombe Street siege: Four IRA members, who were fleeing from the police, barricaded themselves inside a flat in London and held the two occupants hostage. The siege lasted for six days and ended when the IRA members surrendered and released the hostages.
1975, 20 December: The Ulster Defence Association (UDA) bombed Biddy Mulligan's pub in the Kilburn area of London. Five people were injured. It said it bombed the pub because it was frequented by Irish republican sympathizers.[25]
1978, 17 December: IRA bombs explode in Manchester, Liverpool, Coventry, Bristol and Southampton, injuring seven in Bristol.[26]
1979, 17 January: A bomb exploded at a Texaco oil terminal on Canvey Island, Essex, tearing a hole in a tank that was initially thought to contain aviation fuel.[27][28]
1979, 17 February: The Ulster Volunteer Force (UVF) bombed two pubs frequented by Catholics in Glasgow, Scotland. Both pubs were wrecked and a number of people were wounded. It said it bombed the pubs because they were used for Irish republican fundraising.[29]
1979, 30 March: Airey Neave killed when a bomb exploded under his car as he drove out of the Palace of Westminster car park. The Irish National Liberation Army (INLA) claimed responsibility.
1980s[/quote]
Yes Britain have had its share of terror for quite some time. I remember at age of 11 I first time visited UK I knew about this IRA and was a little "exited" when I went there(77), the worst thing that happened was witnessing two young men snatching a handbag from a lady, even had to do a statement with the police. However the whole Star Wars thing that was going on(London) turned out to be the real exiting thing for me, not even the visit to the Loch Ness could compare to that...probably since no monster showed up 8-)
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Re: Sweden's Immigration Policy

Postby RobP3 on Tue Apr 10, 2018 3:10 am

Trick wrote:[
Yes Britain have had its share of terror for quite some time. I remember at age of 11 I first time visited UK I knew about this IRA and was a little "exited" when I went there(77), the worst thing that happened was witnessing two young men snatching a handbag from a lady, even had to do a statement with the police. However the whole Star Wars thing that was going on(London) turned out to be the real exiting thing for me, not even the visit to the Loch Ness could compare to that...probably since no monster showed up 8-)


77 was a good year, The Sex Pistols, Star Wars, and West Ham beat relegation lol
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Re: Sweden's Immigration Policy

Postby grzegorz on Tue Apr 10, 2018 9:12 am

Yes there is. One. Apr 7. I highlighted it for you. (I resided in a hotel two blocks away when it happened. It was my sons birthday, so we decided to have a nice day in the capital. We found ourselves locked in the hotel all day and the whole city was closed down.)

In dec 2010, there was a very amateurish terrorist who thankfully blowed himself up in a small street near the same apartment store. No other casualties. (I worked in a travel agency two blocks away when that happened. I seem to always be near when strange things happen. :P :-\ )


Missed that one. Must be what Trump was talking about a month earlier. -break-

I was talking to Trump supporter yesterday and it became clear to me that these people have some real deep seated fears. Some of their fears are my fears too being that the next generation will be completely overburdened with debt from the extreme cost of health insurance, housing and college education in the US. In fact we are hoping to buy a house or two more so my kids can still live in the bay area as adults.

The difference is I place the blame on the billionaires who want us to fight amongst ourselves while they exploit us. Where as a Trump supporter is convinced that immigrants and the poor are to blame.

I actually got a lot out of it. A lot which would be impossible online because people choose teams and fight whatever the other team is saying. George Washington warned the country not to split into two opposing political parties but the country did not listen. So instead of politicians actually working for is they are working for their party.
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Re: Sweden's Immigration Policy

Postby Trick on Tue Apr 10, 2018 9:33 am

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The difference is I place the blame on the billionaires who want us to fight amongst ourselves while they exploit us. Where as a Trump supporter is convinced that immigrants and the poor are to blame.

I actually got a lot out of it. A lot which would be impossible online.

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Re: Sweden's Immigration Policy

Postby grzegorz on Tue Apr 10, 2018 9:37 am

Nice one.

Actually there is a lot of truth to that. Basically everyone is concerned about the future and how tough it is to get ahead. I blame tax breaks for the billionaires and cooperations and the endless desire to go to war and a Trump supporter blames Muslims, immigrants and people on welfare for our country not being in better shape.

The interesting thing is that I pretty much accept that nothing will change and I don't trust politicans so I don't expect anything whereas in some ways the Trump supporter is actually more hopeful believing him and only him can change things for the better.

For everyone I hope he does. (Even a stopped clock is right twice a day.) But I know that this is basically W 2.0. Tax cuts in a time of war and fear thy neigbor for he may be a terrorist.
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Re: Sweden's Immigration Policy

Postby meeks on Thu May 03, 2018 3:42 pm

Michael wrote:In one of the Trump threads I asked if ambulances in some cities in Sweden needed police escorts for the no-go zones. Here is a 6 minute video with English subtitles of an interview with the head of a paramedic's union saying yes, and it's because of dangers from immigrants blocking their entry, blocking their exit, surrounding them in large numbers of 20-30 people, threatening them and throwing things at them. He also mentions police have been the victims of hand grenade attacks by immigrants and that danger is a potential risk for ambulance workers also.

No go zones in Sweden have been reported a lot, not sure how it can be dismissed, and it is just one of several problems with the immigration policy in Sweden. Other reports suggest how widespread these problems are and how serious they may be, but there's a lot of information on the negative side to consider.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ta5a02MzWjE

Breitbart wrote:Union boss Gordon Grattidge spoke to well respected Swedish journalist Paulina Neuding in an interview for think tank Det Goda Samhället (The Good Society) and discussed ambulances being forced to retreat from no gone zones on a regular basis after coming under attack from “large groups of violent people”.


Video carried as a story by Breitbart, Weekly Standard and RT.


well since it's Breitbart I figured I'd dig deeper because I'm not 'anti-immigrants' and didn't want to say "yup, that validates my emotion so I will post it on a martial arts forum". I found this response to Trump saying similar things, using Sweden as his bait for fueling anti-immigrant sentiment:

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/02/19/world/europe/last-night-in-sweden-trumps-remark-baffles-a-nation.html

another link, from googling "sweden's response to trump":
https://www.svt.se/nyheter/inrikes/intervjuade-poliserna-kanner-sig-lurade

contains:
Intervjuade poliserna känner sig lurade
När USA:s president nyligen pratade om Sverige som ett varnande exempel hänvisade han till ett inslag i Fox News. Men de svenska poliser som intervjuades står inte alls bakom inslaget.

I inslaget intervjuades de två svenska poliserna Jacob Ekström och Anders Göranzon. Men de två poliserna hävdar att de intervjuats på falska premisser.

– Jag och min kollega svarar på en helt annan fråga än det som sägs i inslaget. Det handlar inte om det som vi pratade med honom om. Det är två helt olika program, säger poliskommissarie Anders Göranzon till SVT Nyheter.

Han blev chockad när han såg sig själv i Fox News-inslaget som Donald Trump nyligen refererade till.

– Det känns jäkligt olustigt att vara med i det här, säger han.

Sverige som avskräckande exempel
Trumps uttalanden om Sverige har väckt stor uppmärksamhet de senaste dagarna.

Det hela började under ett kampanjmöte i Florida där president Donald Trump använde Bryssel, Paris, Nice och Sverige som avskräckande exempel.

– Titta vad som hände i Sverige i går kväll. Sverige, vem hade trott det? sa Trump då utan att redogöra för vilken händelse han pratade om.

Alarmistiskt reportage
Senare skrev Trump på twitter att han syftade på ett tv-inslag på Fox News som handlade om invandring och Sverige.

I inslaget som sändes i ”Tucker Carlson tonight” pratar programledaren med filmaren Ami Horowitz som gjort ett alarmistiskt reportage om Sverige, som i december lades upp på Youtube. I reportaget pekas flyktingmottagande ut som orsak till våldsbrott och oroligheter.

”Intervjun handlade om något helt annat”
Horowitz intervjuar bland annat två Stockholmspoliser, Anders Göranzon och Jacob Ekström. De reagerar starkt på hur de framställs i reportaget.

–Vi svarade på frågor om grov brottslighet. Det är inte sjyst att han har klippt in oss eftersom budskapet i Fox News var ett helt annat. Det handlar inte om grov brottslighet utan om migration och flyktingar, säger Anders Göranzon.

Han reagerar på att president Donald Trump hänvisar till reportaget.

– Trump har en av världens största underrättelsetjänster, och så tar han sin information från Fox News. Jag tycker att det känns väldigt konstigt,säger han.

Ami Horowitz la upp ett längre reportage på Youtube redan i december – reagerade ni på det?

– Min kollega har sett det men inte jag, så jag kan inte kommentera det.

Anders Göranzon är själv uppvuxen i ett så kallat utsatt område och erkänner att det finns problem på många håll. Men har reagerar starkt på hur Sverige framställs i Fox News inslaget.

– Det är ingen vettig bild man får av Sverige. Det är klart vi har problem i Sverige i vissa områden. Polisen har själva tagit fram en lista över vissa särskilt utsatta områden och vi har svårt att röra oss i vissa områden, men det är inte så att vi inte rör oss där alls, säger han, och fortsätter:

– Men hur det kommer ut i det amerikanska inslaget det är horribelt.

Kallar filmaren för ”galning”
Anders Göranzon betonar att han och hans kollega inte står för det som Ami Horowitz säger och kallar honom för ”galning”.

Filmaren Ami Horowitz står dock på sig och skriver på sin Facebook-sida att ”Sverige under attack på grund av den öppna inställningen till islamisk immigration”.

Alla känner sig inte lurade
I Horowitz reportage intervjuas även Annika Hernroth-Rothstein, frilansjournalist och Israelvänlig debattör. Hon säger dock till SVT Nyheter att hon står för det hon säger och anser sig inte felciterad.

– När man tar in människor från olika kulturer blir det problem. Sedan är det en väldigt sensationsinriktad film. Jag tar inte ansvar för vad någon annan säger i filmen, säger Annika Hernroth-Rothstein och fortsätter:
– Jag önskar en problematisering av det som händer i Sverige. Men jag är ingen anhängare av Trump.

Trump fortsätter twittra
Även USA:s president Donald Trump fortsätter att twittra om Sverige. På måndagseftermiddagen skriver han: ”Give the public a break – The FAKE NEWS media is trying to say that large scale immigration in Sweden is working out just beautifully. NOT!”

(Ungefär: Fejknyhetsmedia försöker hävda att massimmigrationen fungerar perfekt. Det gör den inte!)


and translates to:
Interviewed police officers feel cheated
When the US president recently spoke about Sweden as a warning example, he referred to a feature in Fox News. But the Swedish police interviewed are not at all behind the feature.

In this section, the two Swedish police officers Jacob Ekström and Anders Göranzon were interviewed. But the two policemen claim that they were interviewed on false premises.

"I and my colleague answer a completely different question from what is said in the article. It's not about what we talked to him about. There are two completely different programs, says police commissioner Anders Göranzon to SVT Nyheter.

He became shocked when he saw himself in the Fox News feature that Donald Trump recently referred to.

"It feels terribly awkward to be involved in this," he says.

Sweden as a deterrent
Trump's statements about Sweden have attracted much attention in recent days.

It all began during a campaign meeting in Florida where President Donald Trump used Brussels, Paris, Nice and Sweden as a deterrent.

- Look what happened in Sweden last night. Sweden, who had believed it? Trump said without explaining what event he was talking about.

Alarming Reporting
Later, Trump wrote on twitter that he was referring to a television feature on Fox News that was about immigration and Sweden.

In the episode broadcast in "Tucker Carlson tonight", the program leader speaks with the film Ami Horowitz, who made an alert report about Sweden, which was posted on Youtube in December. The report refers to refugee reception as a cause of violent crime and unrest.

"The Interview was about something completely different"
Horowitz interviews two Stockholm policemen, Anders Göranzon and Jacob Ekström. They react strongly to the way they are produced in the report.

-We answered questions about serious crime. It's not funny that he has cut us in because the message in Fox News was a whole different one. It's not about gross crime but about migration and refugees, says Anders Göranzon.

He reacts to President Donald Trump referring to the report.

- Trump has one of the world's largest intelligence services, and he takes his information from Fox News. I think it feels very strange, he says.

Ami Horowitz uploaded a longer YouTube report already in December - did you respond to it?

- My colleague has seen it but not me so I can not comment on it.

Anders Göranzon is himself raised in a so-called vulnerable area and acknowledges that there are problems in many ways. But has reacted strongly to how Sweden is produced in the Fox News feature.

"There is no wise picture you get from Sweden. Obviously we have problems in Sweden in some areas. The police themselves have developed a list of certain particularly vulnerable areas and we have difficulty moving in certain areas, but it is not that we do not touch it at all, he says, and continues:

- But how it comes out in the US feature is horrible.

Calling the movie for "crazy"
Anders Göranzon emphasizes that he and his colleague do not stand for what Ami Horowitz says and calls him "crazy".

The film's Ami Horowitz, however, is writing on his Facebook page to "Sweden under attack because of the open attitude towards Islamic immigration".

Everyone does not feel cheated
In Horowitz's reportage, Annika Hernroth-Rothstein, freelance journalist and Israeli debater is also interviewed. However, she says to SVT News that she stands for what she says and does not consider it wrong.

"When you enter people from different cultures, it will be a problem. Then it's a very sensational movie. I do not accept responsibility for what somebody else says in the film, "says Annika Hernroth-Rothstein, and continues:
- I wish a problematic issue of what is happening in Sweden. But I'm not a fan of Trump.

Trump continues twitter
Even US President Donald Trump continues to twittra about Sweden. On Monday afternoon he writes: "Give the public a break - The FAKE NEWS media is trying to say that large scale immigration in Sweden is working out just beautifully. NOTE!"

(About: Fool Media tries to assert that mass immigration works perfectly. It does not!)


I do sense a trend Michael about you posting 'warnings' about immigrants which I find a bit...odd.... being an American living in China. I would have expected you'd have a different perspective than the one you share.

It's as bad as another kungfu guy I used to know that would post memes on facebook about "you're in America now, learn to speak f-ing English" and "you're in America now, lose the garb and dress like you're one of us".... meanwhile he's posting pics of himself throughout China wearing his cowboy hat, huge buckle, and cowboy boots (I call it the redneck 3 piece suit), relying on his Chinese wife to translate everything for him because he couldn't be bothered to learn the language.
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Re: Sweden's Immigration Policy

Postby Michael on Fri May 04, 2018 7:37 am

meeks wrote:I do sense a trend Michael about you posting 'warnings' about immigrants which I find a bit...odd.... being an American living in China. I would have expected you'd have a different perspective than the one you share.

It's as bad as another kungfu guy I used to know that would post memes on facebook about "you're in America now, learn to speak f-ing English" and "you're in America now, lose the garb and dress like you're one of us".... meanwhile he's posting pics of himself throughout China wearing his cowboy hat, huge buckle, and cowboy boots (I call it the redneck 3 piece suit), relying on his Chinese wife to translate everything for him because he couldn't be bothered to learn the language.

You are responding to a post that's more than a year old with items that I have already covered with a few different people. Everything you've brought up has been discussed thoroughly in the past year here on the forum.
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Re: Sweden's Immigration Policy

Postby grzegorz on Fri May 04, 2018 8:41 am

Never trust an American.

Watch "'Fake news' blunder from US envoy to the Netherlands - BBC News" on YouTube



https://youtu.be/K8AwFc9hlf4
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