Pacquiao Horn decision

[everything]

Apparently extremely controversial
https://www.si.com/boxing/2017/07/02/pa ... n-decision

Anyone catch it?

[wayne hansen]

Not here in Australia everyone seems to agree with the 3 international judges

[Steve James]

Well, yeah, outside of Australia, the decision was controversial. Anyway, here's a report of the fight stats, no matter who was given the decision. http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2719 ... -breakdown

I didn't watch the entire fight. So, I have no personal opinion about who won.

[marvin8]

Here is the fight and scorecards. Close fight. No robbery.

Horn did a great job (e.g., movement, feints, control, recuperation). A draw or win for Horn is fair. Rematch should be fun.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rhfpcth-bCs

[junglist]

Robbery.

Horn was aggressive but didn't do anything with that aggression. Dude threw, missed, and was countered. Plus he should've been cautioned and maybe even fouled by the ref.

[marvin8]

Robbery.

Horn was aggressive but didn't do anything with that aggression. Dude threw, missed, and was countered. Plus he should've been cautioned and maybe even fouled by the ref.

Yes, I like to see trapping and control (e.g, head control, etc.) for self defense purposes, although they are borderline legal tactics.

Both had a few good clean shots (a lot of misses too), Pacquiao especially in the 9th round. Otherwise, it was kind of boring in that regards. I don't put much faith in the punch stats for this fight. Horn's awkward rhythm and feints made Pacquiao reset. I think Horn's team had a good game plan.

I don't understand or agree with Teddy Atlas and others who call this a robbery. Some others feel the same way:

An article Manny Pacquiao Vs. Jeff Horn: These 10 Credible People Don't Think Pac-Man Was Robbed from https://www.forbes.com/sites/brianmaziq ... 46dcce6c35.

Published on Jul 2, 2017:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PeMEn5QqVZM

[everything]

ok thanks. so far by RSF judging it seems to be kind of split decision in favor of Horn:
- 3 for "no robbery" and
- 2 for either "robbery" or controversial

which makes me more curious to check it out.

[marvin8]

Five independent Judges from different countries re-score Pacquiao v. Horn.

Pacquiao-Horn Investigation: WBO Backs Scores, Explains Why from http://www.boxingscene.com/pacquiao-hor ... hy--118368:

The Jeff Horn vs. Manny Pacquiao bout results were controversial causing disputes amongst fans. For this reason, transparency is so important.

The WBO does not have power to reverse the Judges decision based on discretion as it can only be revoked when fraud or a violation of Law has occurred, which is not relevant in this case.

Based on this, five (5) anonymous, competent Judges from different countries were asked to watch the bout without sound. Then, the independent results were tabulated to ascertain clearly the rounds each fighter won using an average scale based on 60, 80 and 100 percent.

To determine the winner of each round, 3 out of the 5 officials have to be in agreement.



Upon the analysis, the findings stated that Pacquiao won the 3rd, the 8th and 9th by 100%; the 5th round was won by 80%; and the 11th round by 60%. Horn won the 1st, 6th and 12th rounds by 100%; rounds 2nd, 4th, and 7th by 80%; and then, the 10th round by 60%.

From the results, it can be established that Pacquiao won 5 rounds while Horn won 7 rounds.

The next step of the analysis was to combine the Independent Judges with the Bout Judges to find the percentage agreement by round. Upon doing this analysis, the findings of the Judges stated that Pacquiao won the 3rd and 9th by 100%; the 8th round was won by 87.5%; no rounds were won by 75%; the 5th round by 62.5%; and the 10th and 11th were even rounds.

On the other hand, the Judges findings stated that Horn won the 1st, 6th, and 12th rounds by 100%; by 87.5%, he won the 4th and the 7th; the 2nd was won by 75%; none were won by 62.5%; and the even rounds were the 10th and the 11th.

The analytical method utilized was also used in the decision of Algieri- Provodnikov and Paquiao-Bradley.

Based on this analysis, Jeff Horn was the winner of the bout.