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Postby KEND on Thu Jul 13, 2017 7:54 am

I don't recall this being discussed in the past but over the years coffee has been lauded and lambasted, well here is the latest

A New Study Just Found that Drinking Coffee Reduces the Risk of Death From All Causes
by explorist on July 12, 2017
Studying the Effects of Coffee Consumption
People who drink around three cups of coffee a day may live longer than non-coffee drinkers, a landmark study has found. The findings come from the largest study of its kind, in which scientists analysed data from more than half a million people across 10 European countries, including the UK, to explore the effect of coffee consumption on risk of mortality.
Researchers from the International Agency for Research on Cancer (IARC) and Imperial College London found that higher levels of coffee consumption were associated with a reduced risk of death from all causes, particularly from circulatory diseases and diseases related to the digestive tract.
Coffee is one of the world’s most commonly consumed beverages, with an estimated 2.25 billion cups drank around the world each day. It contains a number of compounds which can interact with the body, including caffeine, diterpenes and antioxidants, and the ratios of these compounds can be affected by the variety of methods used to prepare coffee.
Previous studies looking for a link between coffee consumption and health outcomes have revealed conflicting results, however, large studies in both the US and Japan have since revealed a potential beneficial effect of drinking coffee on risk of death from all causes.
In the latest study, published in the journal Annals of Internal Medicine, researchers have carried out the largest analysis of the effects of coffee-drinking in a European population – where coffee consumption and preparation methods vary, from an espresso in Italy, to a cappuccino in the UK – finding a similar association between consumption and mortality.
Beneficial Health Effects of Coffee
“We found that higher coffee consumption was associated with a lower risk of death from any cause, and specifically for circulatory diseases, and digestive diseases,” said lead author Dr Marc Gunter of the IARC and formerly at Imperial’s School of Public Health. “Importantly, these results were similar across all of the 10 European countries, with variable coffee drinking habits and customs. Our study also offers important insights into the possible mechanisms for the beneficial health effects of coffee.”
Using data from the EPIC study (European Prospective Investigation into Cancer and Nutrition), the group analysed data from 521,330 people from over the age of 35 from 10 EU countries, including the UK, France, Denmark and Italy. People’s diets were assessed using questionnaires and interviews, with the highest level of coffee consumption (by volume) reported in Denmark (900 mL per day) and lowest in Italy (approximately 92 mL per day). Those who drank more coffee were also more likely to be younger, to be smokers, drinkers, eat more meat and less fruit and veg.
After 16 years of follow up, almost 42,000 people in the study had died from a range of conditions including cancer, circulatory diseases, heart failure and stroke.
Following careful statistical adjustments for lifestyle factors such as diet and smoking, the researchers found that the group with the highest consumption of coffee had a lower risk for all-causes of death, compared to those who did not drink coffee. They found that decaffeinated coffee had a similar effect. However, consumption of caffeinated and decaffeinated coffee is not simple to separate, as they could not exclude that decaffeinated coffee drinkers may have been consuming caffeinated coffee as well in different periods of their life.
In a subset of 14,000 people, they also analysed metabolic biomarkers, and found that coffee drinkers may have healthier livers overall and better glucose control than non-coffee drinkers.
“We found that drinking more coffee was associated with a more favourable liver function profile and immune response,” explained Dr Gunter. “This, along with the consistency of the results with other studies in the U.S. and Japan gives us greater confidence that coffee may have beneficial health effects.”
According to the group, more research is needed to find out which of the compounds in coffee may be giving a protective effect or potentially benefiting health. Other avenues of research to explore could include intervention studies, looking at the effect of coffee drinking on health outcomes.
Professor Elio Riboli, head of the School of Public Health at Imperial, who established the EPIC study, said: “These findings add to a growing body of evidence which indicates that drinking coffee not only is safe, but it may actually have a protective health effect for people. While further research is needed, we can be confident that the results from a large European study confirm previous findings seen around the world.”
Dr Gunter added: “Due to the limitations of observational research, we are not at the stage of recommending people to drink more or less coffee. That said, our results suggest that moderate coffee drinking – up to around three cups per day – is not detrimental to your health, and that incorporating coffee into your diet could have health benefits.”
This article was provided by Imperial College London. Materials may have been edited for clarity and brevity.
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Re: Coffee

Postby everything on Thu Jul 13, 2017 8:17 am

Dr Gunter added: “Due to the limitations of observational research, we are not at the stage of recommending people to drink more or less coffee. That said, our results suggest that moderate coffee drinking – up to around three cups per day – is not detrimental to your health, and that incorporating coffee into your diet could have health benefits.”


correlation isn't causation, but it'd be nice to drink coffee and have it be good for you. of course there must be 1000s of foods that are probably good for your health, and coffee probably wouldn't rank at the top. especially if it's mochacino double whipped cream extra syrup frappe latte blah blah etc etc. still, sign me up for more coffee. :)
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Re: Coffee

Postby Trick on Thu Jul 13, 2017 9:14 am

everything wrote:
Dr Gunter added: “Due to the limitations of observational research, we are not at the stage of recommending people to drink more or less coffee. That said, our results suggest that moderate coffee drinking – up to around three cups per day – is not detrimental to your health, and that incorporating coffee into your diet could have health benefits.”


correlation isn't causation, but it'd be nice to drink coffee and have it be good for you. of course there must be 1000s of foods that are probably good for your health, and coffee probably wouldn't rank at the top. especially if it's mochacino double whipped cream extra syrup frappe latte blah blah etc etc. still, sign me up for more coffee. :)

I drink about two big cups a day, one with my breakfast and the other in the afternoon at one of my local coffeebars. No sugar no milk just plain black. About a week ago i read another article that said those who take their coffee black are more prone to psycopathic and sadistic behavior. There could be something to that, cause when there are ten or so of those 'mochacino double whipped cream extra syrup frappe latte blah blah etc etc.' costomers in front of me in the queue and takes 10-15 minutes(at least it feels like that) till I get to place my order it begins to boil inside me......but otherwise I'm a calm guy 8-)
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Re: Coffee

Postby everything on Thu Jul 13, 2017 10:02 am

lol!
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Re: Coffee

Postby Dmitri on Thu Jul 13, 2017 11:45 am

That headline is ludicrous, I gotta say.
"...Reduces the Risk of Death From All Causes", really?
So your "risk of death" is not 100% anymore? ::) ;D
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Re: Coffee

Postby Bao on Thu Jul 13, 2017 12:02 pm

Are there people who don't drink coffee? Really? How do a person wake up properly without four cups of black coffee? :P
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Re: Coffee

Postby Taste of Death on Thu Jul 13, 2017 11:13 pm

8-10 hours of sleep
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Re: Coffee

Postby Trick on Thu Jul 13, 2017 11:44 pm

Dmitri wrote:That headline is ludicrous, I gotta say.
"...Reduces the Risk of Death From All Causes", really?
So your "risk of death" is not 100% anymore? ::) ;D

The Holy Grail was/is a good cup of (black)coffee - the coffe brewer must be the fountain of youth
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Re: Coffee

Postby Bao on Fri Jul 14, 2017 1:11 pm

Taste of Death wrote:8-10 hours of sleep


What a luxury. I'm happy if I can get 6 or 7 hours of sleep. I rarely get 7. :P
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Re: Coffee

Postby Taste of Death on Fri Jul 14, 2017 10:41 pm

Go to bed earlier
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Re: Coffee

Postby Trick on Sat Jul 15, 2017 12:42 am

Taste of Death wrote:Go to bed earlier

Is that the Lady in your avatar speaking 8-)
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Re: Coffee

Postby Trick on Sat Jul 15, 2017 12:54 am

Coffe in China, and TCM. "In sum, coffee dredges the liver to regulate the flow of liver qi, purges the gallbladder, opens the heart orifices, warms the blood circulation, detoxifies, and gently tonifies. However, while coffee dredges the liver qi, it does not necessarily smooth or soothe the liver qi. Therefore, one has to be cautious about the amount consumed and certain individuals will find the otherwise desirable effects distressing: releasing stagnated qi but not regulating its flow. As with other Chinese herbs, coffee would best be used in combination with herbs to moderate and enhance its effects. As an example, peony root (baishao) is often used to "soften" the liver, and smooth the flow of qi. Because coffee is consumed as a flavorful beverage, to pursue such an approach would best be done by having additional herbs taken in a form that wouldn't alter the taste of the coffee, such as in pills. Excessive amounts of coffee will agitate the liver yang and even stimulate internal wind. Prolonged use of excessive amounts could thereby damage the blood, but for moderate amounts it serves as a valuable therapy for stagnated liver qi, with constricted circulation of blood, and constrained gallbladder function, with constricted elimination of damp and heat." http://www.itmonline.org/arts/coffee.htm
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Re: Coffee

Postby Michael on Tue Jul 18, 2017 10:13 am

Been drinking coffee about three years now and a couple of days ago I had a cup in my favorite place that roasts their own and also trains baristas. Was so damn good, almost as good as the best cup of Chinese tea I ever had, which provides a real smooth, gentle mental clarity. Wish I could brew coffee that well, dude must of been well-focused when he made that one. Cheers!
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Re: Coffee

Postby wiesiek on Thu Jul 20, 2017 2:20 am

If I recall it properly -:
it was prison XIX c., in Denmark, and twins waiting for death penalty.
King pardoned them, but one have to drink lot of coffee everyday, second was exclusively on tee only.
`cause coffee drinker died after tee user /just in matter of hours not a days / coffee is recognized in Denmark as a healthier beverage than tee... 8-)
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Re: Coffee

Postby Trick on Thu Jul 20, 2017 3:01 am

wiesiek wrote:If I recall it properly -:
it was prison XIX c., in Denmark, and twins waiting for death penalty.
King pardoned them, but one have to drink lot of coffee everyday, second was exclusively on tee only.
`cause coffee drinker died after tee user /just in matter of hours not a days / coffee is recognized in Denmark as a healthier beverage than tee... 8-)
Not too long time ago workers in Denmark was allowed to drink up to 8 beers during their work day, in the early 2000 it was down three beers a day and only during lunch hour, workers wen to strike, i don't know how it worked out. Dont know about the health benefits of beer, but it sure taste good
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