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It's here to stay . . .

Postby Tom on Wed Nov 08, 2017 3:27 pm

This story reflects something I've noticed, getting around my own town and talking with voters, encouraging people to get out and vote. The base of support for Donald Trump regardless of what he does is a solid, consistent, 30-plus percent. That may be the largest reliable voting bloc in the US electorate. A lot would have to change for this base not to be a major factor in the 2018 elections and when Trump runs for re-election in 2020.

https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2017/11/08/donald-trump-johnstown-pennsylvania-supporters-215800
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Re: It's here to stay . . .

Postby Michael on Wed Nov 08, 2017 6:32 pm

Why does Trump have such popularity? Why do women, blacks and Hispanics vote for him? Why do people who don't vote for Trump say those who do are one or more of the following: ignorant, racist, mysoginist, or Nazi?

I was surprised Trump won, but more surprised by Democrats' reaction to it, and continue to be surprised by so many simply denying reality that he's the president. If there's a problem, denial and blame the world book tours aren't helping. Considering I misread the 2016 election so badly, I don't know if the reaction to Obama's election was this extreme, but I don't think so.
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Re: It's here to stay . . .

Postby wiesiek on Thu Nov 09, 2017 3:47 am

Earth young population became more and more mindless /in general/,
To much info on the web for weak minds.
They do not use the brain any more, uncle Google will do...

Funny, I did here comparison our Polish Kaczyński to the Trump, couple threads ago , and have to do it again.
His party here gets 30% voters support too, regardless of their shit production,
and
it looks , that he has no match in the opposition , he may win again ...:(
but
he is much wiser than Trump, `cause Kaczyński not directing officially , he is doing it from the "back seat",
so
officially - he is ordinary deputy
NO responsibility what`s so ever
joyful usefullnes of the effords
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Re: It's here to stay . . .

Postby oragami_itto on Thu Nov 09, 2017 4:19 am

Other things that are popular in the United States include American Idol and eating yourself to death.
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Re: It's here to stay . . .

Postby Tom on Thu Nov 09, 2017 8:08 am

oragami_itto wrote:Other things that are popular in the United States include American Idol and eating yourself to death.


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Re: It's here to stay . . .

Postby Tom on Thu Nov 09, 2017 8:16 am

Michael wrote:I was surprised Trump won, but more surprised by Democrats' reaction to it . . . .


Trump's win actually didn't surprise me, but the Democrats' reaction(S) to it did. There was/is a wide variation among Democrats to the Trump win, which exposed the brittleness and presumptuousness of the party organization and alienation at the community level. Since at least Bill Clinton's presidency, the Dems have been failing in their long-term connection to the various communities that have historically supported them. The Republicans on the other hand have been aggressively working from local school districts on up in every state in the country to secure and then cement through gerrymandering their control at every level of government. It's questionable whether we have a viable 2-party system of governing anymore in the US (if we ever did) and it points out the long-term need to break away from the two-party tyranny.

In any event, for Democrats who may have been cheered up a bit by the election results on November 7, there is a long ways to go.
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Re: It's here to stay . . .

Postby Ron Panunto on Thu Nov 09, 2017 12:39 pm

Well, I think the biggest issue with the Trump win was that he lost the general election and only won by the godamned electoral college. More people voted for Hillary, but Bozo the Clown ends up being President.
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Re: It's here to stay . . .

Postby Steve James on Thu Nov 09, 2017 4:09 pm

One difference was that Republicans said that they would do everything possible to obstruct Obama. Now they change rules and laws to enable Trump's policies. Remember their refusal to consider Obama's Supreme Court nominee, but changed the rules so that they didn't need the usual number. The irony is that Obama got more done with resistance than Trump can do when it's now a sin not to be loyal to the "president." Obama also got more votes than Trump, but Republicans said his win didn't represent the will of the American people.

It's also galling that Trump led the birther charge. Not to mention that one congressman called Obama a liar during his first SOTU address. I'm hoping the favors can be returned because they are deserved.
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