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Re: Rap

Postby Trick on Fri Jan 12, 2018 11:14 pm

MaartenSFS wrote:Words alone cannot describe my dislike of rap. It's anti-civilisation, devolving human culture..

But Jim Carrey's Rap(hip hop) videos are entertaining and Beasty Boy's videos are kind of fun too I think, but that's it for me when it comes to Rap
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Re: Rap

Postby Trick on Fri Jan 12, 2018 11:24 pm

Steve James wrote:Aw, people said the same thing about Elvis. Fwiw, some of Beethoven's contemporaries called.his music vulgar. Alas, de gustibus non est disputandum. I.e., different strokes for different folks.

My father who was an avid listener of Opera thought Elvis voice where made for that musical format
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Re: Rap

Postby I-mon on Sat Jan 13, 2018 4:03 am

Check out this film if you get the chance:

http://stretchandbobbito.com/film

https://www.netflix.com/au/title/80082677

You can find it for free online as well if you dig around.
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Re: Rap

Postby Trip on Sat Jan 13, 2018 5:14 am

I-mon wrote:Check out this film if you get the chance:

http://stretchandbobbito.com/film
https://www.netflix.com/au/title/80082677


Didn't finish it but that was informative.
Thanks :)
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Re: Rap

Postby KEND on Sat Jan 13, 2018 7:28 am

I remember seeing the early hip hop in the late 70's , it and its attendant rap was innovative and exciting, since then the genre expanded but IMHO did not get better. Like country and western it evolved into a commercialized not particularly interesting form, much like the vibrant music of Cash et al devolved into manufactured pap of modern C & W, there is a curious notion that wearing a black Stetson substitutes for life experience. Incidentally because people disapprove of it doesn't make it good. The 'people who matter' as in previous times go where the dollar signs lead them, Taylor Swift and Justin Bieber are my pet dislikes , the highest paid singers in the nation, I can think of dozens of singers who have more talent but a generation has been persuaded they are the top dogs.
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Re: Rap

Postby Steve James on Sat Jan 13, 2018 8:06 am

Well, growing up in the South Bronx, "Rap" didn't really exist in the 70s at all. There were "emcees" (masters of ceremonies) at parties, and that's the part that few seem to get. It was all about the party. There were no "rap" records. Guys would talk while records were being played and people were dancing. The emcee wasn't even the one playing the records. And, all this was happening on the streets at block parties.

It was the 80s when the "Rapper" became the primary feature, but the function was the same. "Rapper's Delight" wasn't the first "rap" song, but it was the first to get national attention. It simply repeated a few bars of a popular dance song while four guys talked about themselves --using the term "hip hop."

That type of rap was garbage in terms of meaningful lyrics.

I said a hip hop
Hippie to the hippie
The hip, hip a hop, and you don't stop, a rock it out
Bubba to the bang bang boogie, boobie to the boogie
To the rhythm of the boogie the beat


These rappers talked about themselves, how successful they were with the girls, how fly they were, etc. I.e., they were boasting. By the mid 80s, however, the best rappers (not always the most successful) were talking about their living conditions. By the 90s, west coast rappers (like Ice Cube and Tupac) were doing the same. But, there was also a return to boasting, this time about how "gansta" they were.

Today, there are still "conscious" rappers around whose lyrics, articulation, and rhythmic sophistication are miles ahead of the 70s rappers. Now, there were spoken word artists around in the 60s and early 70s, but they weren't rappers --and they weren't featured at parties. It was revolution time. Go to Youtube and look up The Last Poets, "When the revolution comes." Sorry if some parts are offensive. Gil Scott Heron is a bit tamer:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QnJFhuOWgXg

More hip hop would be Grandmaster Flash.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PobrSpMwKk4

There were also anti-drug raps, but again these were danceable.
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Re: Rap

Postby Trip on Sun Jan 14, 2018 5:36 am

Thought this was entertaining.
He’s saying the same thing that some of you are complaining about.

But, using Rap Lingo & flow to say it.

[Explicit Lyrics]

starts complaining at about 00:40

or click here:
https://youtu.be/Ru2j76q8NAw?t=39s

I'm not saying you're gonna like it.
Just thought it was funny/relevant to the thread.
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Re: Rap

Postby Steve James on Sun Jan 14, 2018 6:33 am

Yep, you can understand him and he doesn't repeat himself. It's not easy.
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Re: Rap

Postby oragami_itto on Sun Jan 14, 2018 4:27 pm

And you want to talk about devolution?

Hip hop is cutting edge evolution in today's music. Miles ahead of the committe-processed country and pop and r&b garbage we're getting fed.

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Re: Rap

Postby Steve James on Sun Jan 14, 2018 5:51 pm

Much of the "Rap" that one will hear is only what's commercial. Nothing wrong with that: it's the American way. Otoh, however, there are plenty of "conscious" rappers who don't get played. Conscious rappers have a message --like it or agree with it or not. In fact, the content is why it isn't played, whereas raps about drugs, guns, bitches and hos do.

Anyway, I'm old skool. If I can't understand the words, it ain't good rap.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pXtQE-MhY5k
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Re: Rap

Postby oragami_itto on Sun Jan 14, 2018 6:05 pm

OH yeah

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Re: Rap

Postby KEND on Mon Jan 15, 2018 5:30 pm

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Re: Rap

Postby aamc on Tue Jan 16, 2018 4:38 pm



I don't care what anyone says, 100 miles and running is still probably the best music video ever.
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Re: Rap

Postby aamc on Tue Jan 16, 2018 4:46 pm



Throw out this London Town classic, video is still funny as..
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Re: Rap

Postby cloudz on Wed Jan 17, 2018 4:08 am

Loving this guy right now



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