Dmitri wrote:When an unstoppable force meets an immovable object... The audience is enthralled!
Can't believe I'm sponge Springer worthy.
Dmitri wrote:When an unstoppable force meets an immovable object... The audience is enthralled!
Michael wrote:OMG, Bruce, you've been quoted for posterity.
It's being entered in the great journal of internet discussions, sub-category: gun debate. This must be your proudest moment.
The 2nd Amendment does not specify guns or other specific arms. Does that mean that I get to buy and keep:
Alabama
Main article: Gun laws in Alabama
Subject/Law Long guns Handguns Relevant statutes Notes
Permit to purchase required? No No
Firearm registration? No No
Owner license required? No No
Carry permits required? No Yes Alabama is a shall-issue state for concealed carry. However, the issuing county sheriff can suspend or even revoke concealed carry privileges for wanton disregard of the law.[7]
Open carry permitted? Yes Yes
State preemption of local restrictions? Yes Yes
Assault weapon law? No No
NFA weapons restricted? No No
Background checks required for private sales? No No
California
Main article: Gun laws in California
Subject/Law Long guns Handguns Relevant Statutes Notes
State permit to purchase? Yes Yes
Firearm registration? Yes Yes
Owner license required? No No
Assault weapon law? Yes Yes
Magazine capacity restriction? Yes Yes
Carry permits required? Yes Yes §
Open carry? Partial Partial
State preemption of local restrictions? Yes Yes
Castle doctrine law? Yes Yes
Peaceable journey laws? No No .
Waiting period? Yes Yes
Background checks required for private sales? Yes Yes
Michael wrote:OMG, Bruce, you've been quoted for posterity.
It's being entered in the great journal of internet discussions, sub-category: gun debate. This must be your proudest moment.
Ian C. Kuzushi wrote:Michael wrote:A few months back there was a man who killed 26 people in a church and kept firing until a hero with an AR-15, who ran barefoot from his house next door stopped him. That's a hero, Stephen Willeford, a man who risked his life and stood toe to toe with a murderer and exchanged fire with him using a weapon that requires knowledge, training, skill and preparedness.
Man who shot and chased Texas church shooter gives emotional account to police in video
Extensive video interview by Willeford a few days later.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B4HEchh0XD8
Hero Who Chased Down Sutherland Springs Shooter: “Act Now, Ask Questions Later…”
So, you are going to accuse this guy of politicizing yet you present an essentially fabricated fantasy of the lone vigilanty saving the day. Full of shit as usual.
First of all, even if we pretend that this vigilante burst into the church and killed the mass shooter mid-spree, would that somehow validate what you are getting at? No, because the body count is still incredibly skewed.
Furthermore, this dipshit showed up after the fact, started shooting at the killer, couldn't even hit him, and then chased him down in *another commandeered vehicle* and found the guy in a ditch dead from his own weapon. Suicide. The killer was already done and on his way out.
Finally, I thought you served? The M-4, M-16, or any American style long rifle is not hard to use, does not require much or any training, or any particular knowledge. Given that, the fact that he couldn't even hit his target makes all of your comments ridiculous.
And you, who comes on here crusading against Antifa in the defense of ethno-nationalists, are the last one to call anyone else out for being political and partisan.
Get the fuck out of here with that shit.
Ian C. Kuzushi wrote:Hey, I think it's worth pointing out again that I'm not "anti-gun." I know Bruce doesn't live down here and neither do you, but you both have solid training (sounds like you might be a bit rusty, but if you follow the four rules, good enough) and I would have no problem with you guys owning, carrying, whatever, given that you followed up to date training and checks.
As a member of a g trust, I own and can use some neat stuff. Stuff most people don't get to touch. I just know too many people who should never have a firearm.
I just don't like to see arguments made that I think actually disservice the cause. I really don't buy the vigilante thing, although I am open to having my mind changed as I am with most things.
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