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Re: "But her emails" Trump is sunk.

Postby Bao on Tue Jun 20, 2023 2:22 pm

Judge Napolitano interview w Arthur Aidala Esq about why Trump has a real legal trouble: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YHmCpgrNinc

Also a new video where he breaks down the Trump interview. Live streamed 3 hours ago, haven't had time to watch it yet: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6cPQhPkpCB8

Overall an excellent channel with many great guests, highly recommended.
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Re: "But her emails" Trump is sunk.

Postby origami_itto on Wed Jun 21, 2023 3:29 am

You know you're absolutely right. He didn't do anything they ate just picking on him. Every president's got a stack of classified documents in thur guest bathroom at the resort.

I mean it's not Lee he's storing emails with commonly known information on a private server, that would be worth locking him up.

I get that, but could you explain it for these other guys? Like how what Biden and Hillary did, clearly treason, but Trump did nothing but try to protect us from socialism and BLM.
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Re: "But her emails" Trump is sunk.

Postby windwalker on Wed Jun 21, 2023 6:39 am



The Grayzone's. Max Blumenthal and Aaron Mate discuss the indictment of Donald Trump under the Espionage Act for illegal retention of classified documents, and question whether the indictment is another act of lawfare designed to sabotage the presidential frontrunner after Russiagate failed.
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Re: "But her emails" Trump is sunk.

Postby Steve James on Wed Jun 21, 2023 7:29 am

The presidential frontrunner? He's been running since 2021. And, c'mon, they say the same about the trial in NYC, the trial in GA, and upcoming trials in DC. It's only going to get worse.

But, let's say that it's true and it's all for political reasons to prevent him from winning the election next year. SO WHAT! In 2016, Trump campaigned on the phrase LOCK HER UP! I say turn about is more than fair play. Remember, the investigation of Hillary started in 2016. And, it worked, even though nothing came of it, he won the election. Plus, what does he say should be done? Lock up Biden for crimes and election interference. So, f*ck that sh*t. If people want to whine about unfair treatment, cry me a river. I say Trump lays the template for what should be done.

Oh, afa fairness, some people are bitching that Hunter Biden got off too light. Sure, an investigation started by Trump's DoJ, with a Trump appointed prosecutor, got a Biden on tax evasion (which he paid back) and a gun charge. If the deal is accepted, he might not get any jail time. But, hold on, why was the investigation allowed to proceed after Biden got in office. Usually, Presidents replace all federal DAs; but Biden kept Trump's on (awa his FBI director). Does anybody believe that Trump would investigate Ivanka, Jared, or Don Jr? If they want fairness, they should investigate how Jared got $2 billion from the Saudis while working in the WH. What would Trump say then?

It's just tfb that he's campaigning for president again. Since he is, whatever he suggests be done to the other guy should be exactly what he gets.
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Postby windwalker on Wed Jun 21, 2023 7:30 am

Like how what Biden and Hillary did, clearly treason.


It was ;D

According to John Durham’s report, Hillary Clinton’s plan to link Trump’s campaign to Russia was briefed by former CIA Director John Brennan to Barack Obama and Joe Biden in August 2016. They were all in on it from the beginning.

The investigation led to the attempted coup to rid President Trump from the White House.
Trump battled the intelligence community, FBI, CIA, and others his entire first term.
Democrats and their mainstream media gladly and willingly spread this lie for years.


In a Banana republic,,doesn't matter so much... :P
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Re: "But her emails" Trump is sunk.

Postby windwalker on Wed Jun 21, 2023 7:49 am

Steve James wrote:The presidential frontrunner? He's been running since 2021. And, c'mon, they say the same about the trial in NYC, the trial in GA, and upcoming trials in DC. It's only going to get worse.

But, let's say that it's true and it's all for political reasons to prevent him from winning the election next year. SO WHAT! In 2016, Trump campaigned on the phrase LOCK HER UP! I say turn about is more than fair play. Remember, the investigation of Hillary started in 2016. And, it worked, even though nothing came of it, he won the election. Plus, what does he say should be done? Lock up Biden for crimes and election interference. So, f*ck that sh*t. If people want to whine about unfair treatment, cry me a river. I say Trump lays the template for what should be done.

leaving out what HRC actually did but was not prosecuted for..
No one is talking about "un-fair" treatment... .
People are pointing out discrepancies in the system, the fiction of a two party system


Oh, afa fairness, some people are bitching that Hunter Biden got off too light.

they are pointing out that others changed with the same crimes
were treated differently....why?

Like when people get shot, its on video.
Somehow one person in the jury questions the state of mind of the killers
Resulting in a hung jury...



Sure, an investigation started by Trump's DoJ, with a Trump appointed prosecutor, got a Biden on tax evasion (which he paid back) and a gun charge. If the deal is accepted, he might not get any jail time. But, hold on, why was the investigation allowed to proceed after Biden got in office. Usually, Presidents replace all federal DAs; but Biden kept Trump's on (awa his FBI director). Does anybody believe that Trump would investigate Ivanka, Jared, or Don Jr? If they want fairness, they should investigate how Jared got $2 billion from the Saudis while working in the WH. What would Trump say then?

Don't know what he would say, ask him...
His family was investigated. Do you seriously believe that they if they found anything they could've been charged with they wouldn't have ;D


It's just tfb that he's campaigning for president again. Since he is, whatever he suggests be done to the other guy should be exactly what he gets.


It's not about Trump,,,

It does illustrate what's happening and going on in the US.

The system is broken.

Maybe it always was from the beginning.

Hopefully as the world re-aligns this gets corrected...
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Re: "But her emails" Trump is sunk.

Postby Steve James on Wed Jun 21, 2023 8:12 am

According to John Durham’s report, Hillary Clinton’s plan to link Trump’s campaign to Russia was briefed by former CIA Director John Brennan to Barack Obama and Joe Biden in August 2016. They were all in on it from the beginning.

The investigation led to the attempted coup to rid President Trump from the White House.
Trump battled the intelligence community, FBI, CIA, and others his entire first term.
Democrats and their mainstream media gladly and willingly spread this lie for years.


Damn, somebody wrote that, so it must be true.:) Anyway, afa mainstream media, the numbers say that FOX is mainstream media and is proud of having more viewers. Afa a coup, going through the courts and eventually finding no results is the opposite of a coup or coup attempt. The impeachment investigations were not attempted coups. Everything was lawful, and that's not a coup.

Afa battling the intelligence community, they know more about him than we do. But, he's saying the same thing about them now. He's saying the people he hired for the most important positions sucked: i.e. the Sec of Defense, head of the FBI, his Attorney General, all of his chief of staffs.
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Re: "But her emails" Trump is sunk.

Postby windwalker on Wed Jun 21, 2023 8:31 am

Sounds like more typical American bullshit .

Talking about free-speech while not allowing it.
Not focusing on what is actually done. .

What did the former president “do “ that actually violated the constitution?
The case being brought, originally a dispute between the former president and agencies under the executive administration,, of the the opposing party now in charge.

The executive communication privilege that presidents have, as well as former presidents was removed by Biden .
Allowing what is happening to begin .

The outcome not certain remains to be seen.

The damage to future presidents holding the office done.
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Re: "But her emails" Trump is sunk.

Postby windwalker on Wed Jun 21, 2023 8:39 am

The impeachment investigations were not attempted coups. Everything was lawful, and that's not a coup.


Of course, it was comrade :)

“Show me the man and I'll show you the crime”

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Re: "But her emails" Trump is sunk.

Postby Steve James on Wed Jun 21, 2023 8:48 am

It's not about Trump,,,
It does illustrate what's happening and going on in the US.
The system is broken.
Maybe it always was from the beginning.
Hopefully as the world re-aligns this gets corrected...


It sure is about Trump. The question is whether others are being treated like him.

What's going on in the US? Trump was president for four years, and look what happened. Look at all the firsts. I don't recall any presidential candidate question the identity of a US President or call for his political opponent to be locked up. When people call for his incarceration, however, he says it's unfair. We'd never hear a President ask another country's president to find dirt on his political opponent.

The system isn't broken because of Trump, but he illustrates it. Of course, it depends on what one thinks the system is. If it's "Equal Justice Under Law" then maybe it's always been broken. However, when there are laws affecting people unequally, it's hard to fix it. Clearly, we can make things more "equal," but we all know that a lot of people don't want that at all. It's like demanding free speech, but making laws to limit what people can read or hear. People like that Trump tells cops "When you put the criminal in the car, make sure to give his head a little bump on the way in."

And, afa this rearrangement or world reset, Reset to what? The world economy? China and India dominating world markets? The US in decline is going to affect the judicial system in the US? Makes no sense, but I've been hearing it for a long time. Frankly, since I've been on EF/RSF, the only political issue that has ever affected me was the pandemic. That's why we could bs about political stuff. Today, there is absolutely nothing wrong with the economy or condition of the country that affects me. The claim that the country is a banana republic because one's favorite politician (millionaire) is or isn't being prosecuted is just something to have fun with because the US definitely ain't a banana republic. Well, Florida might be considered an orange republic with its current leadership. Want to start a thread about banning books being great?
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Postby Steve James on Wed Jun 21, 2023 8:49 am

Sounds like more typical American bullshit .


Ah, so you're not American. Good to know.
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Re: "But her emails" Trump is sunk.

Postby windwalker on Wed Jun 21, 2023 9:01 am

Steve James wrote:
Sounds like more typical American bullshit .


Ah, so you're not American. Good to know.



It’s not personal someone mentioned .

Are you American? Does it matter?

To be clear, American by birth .

Not in thought.

Illustrated by someone who is presumably American questioning another Americans differences of thought .

More USA free speech, bullshit .
Often used by those claiming it denying or questioning it of others.
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Re: "But her emails" Trump is sunk.

Postby windwalker on Wed Jun 21, 2023 9:06 am

Lots going on before the election cycle .
Will be interesting to see how the political ramifications influence the election based on what’s happening now.

And whether it goes to trial or not .
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Re: "But her emails" Trump is sunk.

Postby windwalker on Wed Jun 21, 2023 9:34 am

Steve James wrote:
It sure is about Trump. The question is whether others are being treated like him.

What's going on in the US? Trump was president for four years, and look what happened. Look at all the firsts. I don't recall any presidential candidate question the identity of a US President or call for his political opponent to be locked up. When people call for his incarceration, however, he says it's unfair. We'd never hear a President ask another country's president to find dirt on his political opponent.

It might be more fair to say, most political insiders will not say things that he said publicly because as insiders they know what will happen. Of course there are always hot mics around






The system isn't broken because of Trump, but he illustrates it. Of course, it depends on what one thinks the system is. If it's "Equal Justice Under Law" then maybe it's always been broken. However, when there are laws affecting people unequally, it's hard to fix it. Clearly, we can make things more "equal," but we all know that a lot of people don't want that at all. It's like demanding free speech, but making laws to limit what people can read or hear. People like that Trump tells cops "When you put the criminal in the car, make sure to give his head a little bump on the way in."

he can't "say that" what can he say
What part of the Constitution that covers his actions did he violate ?

What people like Trump..?


And, afa this rearrangement or world reset, Reset to what? The world economy? China and India dominating world markets?
The US in decline is going to affect the judicial system in the US?
Makes no sense, but I've been hearing it for a long time. Frankly, since I've been on EF/RSF, the only political issue that has ever affected me was the pandemic.
That's why we could bs about political stuff.

Notice the new finding about the pandemic coming out ..



Today, there is absolutely nothing wrong with the economy or condition of the country that affects me. The claim that the country is a banana republic because one's favorite politician (millionaire) is or isn't being prosecuted is just something to have fun with because [b]the US definitely ain't a banana republic
[/b]. Well, Florida might be considered an orange republic with its current leadership. Want to start a thread about banning books being great?


Attributing motive "favorite ect"
why would one do that ?

aah having fun,,,ok ;D

Banana Republic,,,your opinion. free to voice it...
Others have different ones...Problem ?


banana republics are often characterized by weak institutions, corruption, and political instability.
The ruling elite or a small group of individuals often hold disproportionate power and wealth, while the majority of the population may experience poverty, limited access to basic services, and a lack of political representation.



Maybe you'er right, it's not happening just a news cycle ;D

Nothing wrong with country that affects you...good to know...
Maybe you'er part of the "elite" never know...
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Re: "But her emails" Trump is sunk.

Postby Steve James on Wed Jun 21, 2023 10:02 am

I agree with the idea of American bullshit, though.

Afa this trial, it's not the one that 's important to me whether he's found guilty or not. It's a lot of fuss just because he just didn't want to comply. Even if he's found guilty, he's not going to jail or even home confinement.

Afa the election, some say the more indictments, the more popular he becomes. That may be true on polls of likely Republican voters, but someone who's never won the popular vote will have more people voting for him. No one who didn't vote for Biden before will vote for him because he's indicted. Trump will rise in Republican polls because there is a percentage of them who'll vote for him even when they know he's guilty.

One of the GOP candidates suggests raising the voting age to 25. I wonder why? Back when they lowered it to 18, we thought it was great. It required a Constitutional Amendment. So, this candidate wants to change the Constitution. There are also female GOP representatives who say the "Constitution is not a suggestion," but don't realize that it required an Amendment to allow them to vote.
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