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I was recently informed a former student went insane.

It was a mixture of THC use, meditation and Enochian magic that seemed to do it. All of which I had repeatedly warned him about as things to avoid.

Has anyone here dealt with anything like this and what was the outcome?

Message me if you don't want to discuss it here.

Yeah I'd avoid that Enochian shit for sure if you're not sufficiently prepped. You'll wind up doing open-heart brain surgery on yourself with no anesthetic and have no idea what you're doing wrong.

I don't think that insane and crazy are particularly useful labels to attach to anything. How, specifically, are they decompensating? Hallucinating? Pica?

I'm not a psychiatrist, but weed don't make you crazy, a little confused while you're actively under the influence, but it's not a cumulative effect that is going to dissociate you from reality absent some other major chemical influence or pre-existing psychosis.

But drugs and unguided esoteric play with a propensity for pschizophrenia... ya man good luck.

Paranoia, end of the world conspiracy, the chosen one for rebuilding the Essene order...

Apocalyptic starter pack basically. Apparently, Sep 21st was supposed to be the end of the world.

Wife just kicked him out. A mutual friend is buying him a ticket back to his parent's place.

And this guy used to be a high-level professional on Wall Street.

enochian magic ?!

Trick wrote:enochian magic ?!

Essentially, speaking the language of the angels directly
There's no way to talk about it without sounding crazy to the uninitiated, honestly the less you know about it the better off you are.

At the most skeptical, you are working directly with your own psyche in ways that transcend normal comprehension.

At the most believing, you are literally communicating with energetic intelligences that can interact with your reality in various ways.

The temptation here is to keep talking but if you want to know more and it's the path for you a way will appear so if it doesn't don't worry about it.

Peacedog wrote:.
And this guy used to be a high-level professional on Wall Street.

I mean... greedy desires are never sated.
Lot of greed in that neighborhood.
What drove him into the studies?

Not my place to judge.

There was a ", but," after that but I deleted it. Everything after that but it's bullshit.

Sorry I can't see very well at the moment so please forgive my autocorrect typos.

I hope your friend finds his way home safely and can rest his head in peace. The night is dark and confusing.

There seems to be a lot of lost seekers lately.

origami_itto wrote:There seems to be a lot of lost seekers lately.

pandemic, war, financial breakdowns, climate changes - saviour - UN's spiritual arm - https://www.lucistrust.org/ - perhaps ?

I dunno. It's a fact we're under continuous psychic assault and it's only getting worse. Your mind and attention span is the last virgin real estate they can claim.

They get that attention by appealing to our strongest and most fundamental emotions.

So we look to their product to sate the craving.

But we're still getting revved, fed more craving, more need, so we maximize our input, get as much as possible.

Eventually that runs out, we hit the limit of our ability. Some folks look to esoteric work as a route to expand that ability. Lots of ways to do that.

In my opinion and experience, some of those ways can lead you to some bad places.

A lot of ways an occult practice can be like building a car, the problem is when you get the engine in and want to test it out before you install the brakes or steering, but you don't even know they're missing.

I just mean specifically in my own life and path recently I've run into an unusually large number of people struggling through a dark night of the soul.

Peacedog wrote:I was recently informed a former student went insane.

It was a mixture of THC use, meditation and Enochian magic that seemed to do it. All of which I had repeatedly warned him about as things to avoid.

Has anyone here dealt with anything like this and what was the outcome?

Message me if you don't want to discuss it here.

I have had quite a number of students who took marijuana in various forms, and when I tell them they have to quit it or they won't be able to get better at kungfu they stop coming to class.

Trick wrote:enochian magic ?!

*shrug* Americans.

Appledog wrote:I have had quite a number of students who took marijuana in various forms, and when I tell them they have to quit it or they won't be able to get better at kungfu they stop coming to class.

As would I, ain't none of your damn business.

Appledog wrote:

Trick wrote:enochian magic ?!

*shrug* Americans.

Invented by Britons, John Dee and Edward Kelley

This thread explains a lot
Take note of what is said here when you read other threads

Naw man, this thread has nothing in it. Just one more thing I've studied over the years. Like I said, the less you know the better unless you want to do some work.

we are entering a new age - Aquarius. initially it gets bumpy, but it will settle.

and enoch was no magician, he was hiking with the space-aliens that was involved in our creation....
and thats it ....


Am i serious about this.........maybe a little ：）