Michael wrote:I strongly suggest if you are considering taking the swine flu vaccine, or giving it to your children, that you watch the 60 Minutes report from 1979 about what happened when the US Govt pushed 46 million citizens to take a similar vaccine. This report says 4000 people got Guillaine-Barre Syndrome, but I think even that is a very conservative number. Also, at least 50 people died from the vaccine. There had been only one reported death from the swine flu, a soldier who was sick but forced to exercise when he was unfit to do so. Many more people were killed or seriously injured by the vaccine than by the 1976 swine flu itself.
This page has a transcript of the 60 Minutes report with Mike Wallace from 1979.
Here is the 14 minute report on video, plus 2 minutes of the TV ads warning people to take the shot.
For those who prefer youtube, you can find the same 60 Minutes report in two pieces:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HEJyUgt7lY8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UeVaXJXXBhg
CONCLUSION:
1) TIV [trivalent inactivated flu vaccine] did not provide any protection against hospitalization in pediatric subjects' esp. children with asthma. On the contrary, we found a 3- fold increased risk of hospitalization in subjects who did get the TIV vaccine.This may be a reflection not only of the vaccine effectiveness but also the population of children who are more likely to get the vaccine.
Provinces have been reviewing their vaccination plans since Canadian researchers announced last week that preliminary results of a study suggest people who had received the seasonal flu vaccine in the past were twice as likely to get the pandemic swine flu virus. The research has not yet been peer reviewed or published.
Preliminary research suggests the seasonal flu shot may put people at greater risk for getting swine flu, CBC News has learned.
"This is some evidence that has been floated. It hasn't been validated yet, it's very preliminary," cautioned Dr. Don Low, microbiologist-in-chief at Mount Sinai Hospital in Toronto.
Michael wrote:It's not speculation, it's a study that's been completed. It goes along quite well with the study I posted right above it saying there is a 300% greater risk for vaccine recipients to actually get the flu.
What is it about vaccines that you think has changed since 1976 that is similar to comparing current geographical knowledge to pre-1492 levels?
A new study has shown that giving Hepatitis B vaccine to newborn baby boys more than triples their risk of developing an autism spectrum disorder.
Darth Rock&Roll wrote:DeusTrismegistus wrote:Actually the flu vaccines in general have never been proven to actually reduce the number of cases of flu.
can you provide the data that confirms that?
I bet you can't.
Why would there be a vaccine process if it didn't work?
Do you think medical science is about killing people or helping them?
These types of statements are pretty out there.
Vaccines have eliminated smallpox and have nearly eliminated other infections, such as polio and measles, that were once common childhood scourges in the United States. Despite this success, it is important for health care practitioners to continue to vaccinate children. Many of the diseases prevented by vaccination are still present in the United States and remain common in other parts of the world. These diseases can spread rapidly among unvaccinated children, who, because of the ease of modern travel, can be exposed even if they live in areas where a disease is not common.
No vaccine is 100% effective and 100% safe. A few vaccinated children fail to become immune, and a few develop side effects. Most often, the side effects are minor, such as pain at the injection site, an itchy rash, or a mild fever. Very rarely, there are more serious problems. Vaccines are continuously undergoing improvements to ensure safety and effectiveness. Recent improvements include the use of acellular pertussis (DTaP), which has a much lower chance of causing side effects than the previously used whole-cell pertussis (DPT) vaccine, and the use of an inactivated, injectable polio vaccine (IVP) instead of the previously used oral polio vaccine. The oral polio vaccine, which is made of a live, weakened virus, can cause polio if the weakened virus mutates, which happens once in every 2.4 million children. Although this is an extremely small chance, it led doctors in the United States to completely switch to the injectable polio vaccine. Febrile seizures (seizures that are triggered by a fever) have occurred in about 3 in 10,000 children after receiving the measles-mumps-rubella vaccine. Although the public press has reported concerns that the measles-mumps-rubella vaccine may produce autism, scientific evidence shows that this does not happen.
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