cerebus wrote: There are others where I would call the cops, then maybe get creative with further help. Like running up to the perps and shouting "Here come the cops! Run!" or something along those lines.
Nice one Troy.
cerebus wrote: There are others where I would call the cops, then maybe get creative with further help. Like running up to the perps and shouting "Here come the cops! Run!" or something along those lines.
grzegorz wrote:Dmitri wrote:Aha, so NOW they're complaining that people did nothing? But wait a minute, wasn't it "the right thing to do", according to police/govt.? "Don't get involved, call 911, stay safe, let authorities handle things", etc. -- we keep hearing this bullshit ALL the damn time, right? So now people actually acted like they were asked to act (i.e. do nothing) and something awful happens as a result, and they're fucking surprized?!
If someone called 911 I'd be satisfied, as Methods said this is a very dangerous neighborhood and payback is a bitch!
But even that didn't happen and this went on for 2 and half hours, you'd think someone would have walked away and just dial up someone to call someone for help.
Ron Panunto wrote:It's a matter of group dynamics. The more people that witness an event, the less likely it is that any single individual will accept responsibility and do something to prevent it.
Iskendar wrote:Ron Panunto wrote:It's a matter of group dynamics. The more people that witness an event, the less likely it is that any single individual will accept responsibility and do something to prevent it.
AKA 'Kitty Genovese-effect'. Named after a woman murdered in the 60s under the eyes of 38 witnesses, who did nothing. This stuff is old, nothing to do with the pussification of society. Just human nature. Unfortunately...
Steve James wrote:In the Genovese case, a woman was screaming on the street corner. People heard from their windows; some even looked down, but then they closed their shades and their ears. They didn't spectate. When asked, they said they didn't really know what was happening. They closed their windows because they didn't want to get involved. In that case, the people involved were plain old working class folks in a pretty nice neighborhood. Anyway, although it's true that some may not have done anything --not even called the cops-- because they thought someone else would do it, I don't think it's the same phenomenon as this one, where the observers didn't shun the crime, they participated as if spectators at a sports event.
Ian wrote:I can't judge what the people should have done, but it's within every thinking adult's capacity to leave the scene and call the cops ASAP, and remember as many details about the perps as possible to assist in their arrest.
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