The Evil of Catholicism (example)

[Michael]

You're confusing people who think they are free to do anything, and people who can't see consequences. I am free to do anything I wish, but there are obviously things I hold off from doing. Not because I find them "evil," but because I realize what the ultimate end result would be.

That's basically what I've been saying. You always have the freedom of choice, and that's true within the limitations of your own perspective, but if you have moral principles to follow there's nothing wrong with admitting you are limited by them. It's not being narrow-minded to avoid conflict by predicting obvious consequences.

And why would you avoid an end result? Because it brings harm to someone, including yourself, and that is the definition of evil. Good and evil are very simple, basic concepts, and I wonder if you avoid them because of other people attaching things to them, like relgious dogma, that are just connotations. No need to throw out perfectly good words because of other's attaching things to them.

[Michael]

Thanks for posting that, Bob, but since it's focused on interpretation of Rand, I think I'd have to read her before appreciating those comments.

[Bob]

Michael, just wanted to be clear that those interpretations are not mine--I posted the original source--I thought the direction of the discussion was going into Ayn Rand's moral philosophy and I may have been wrong, here--sorry.

[grzegorz]

Politics and religion....two things people will never agree on.

[Michael]

Bob, I knew it wasn't yours, just saying that I have never read Ayn Rand. People always bring her up, but I'm not familiar with it.

[qiphlow]

and now, a musical interlude:

[grzegorz]

Can't play DEVO without playing...

[The K Prodigy]

Bump. Place holder post, been busy in the last few days, will respond to inquiries asap.

Edit:

from your response, you may be an ayn rand follower? i'm not sure what your reference to the wiki article implies?

No, it just so happens she has a related philosophy.

And why would you avoid an end result? Because it brings harm to someone, including yourself, and that is the definition of evil. Good and evil are very simple, basic concepts, and I wonder if you avoid them because of other people attaching things to them, like relgious dogma, that are just connotations. No need to throw out perfectly good words because of other's attaching things to them.

False, because it will hinder some greater goal that I wish to accomplish. Now you're just assuming things.

[zenshiite]

^No one really gives a shit dude.

[qiphlow]

^No one really gives a shit dude.