no attacks on the USA under bush ....

[middleway]

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/01/0 ... 16033.html

Classic!

You guys across the pond need a Jeremy Paxman type on one of your news channels ... he would have shot Giuliani down!

This is the interesting bit ....

Curiously, the Associated Press did a long write-up of Giuliani's Obama criticisms but omitted the startling mistake. George Stephanopoulos, who conducted the ABC interview, included the quote in a blog post but did not question it.

[yusuf]

next they'll be telling us there was no memo a month before 9/11

(CNN) -- The White House declassified and released Saturday the daily intelligence briefing delivered to President Bush a month before the terrorist attacks of September 11, 2001.

The declassified intelligence report said the FBI had detected "patterns of suspicious activity in this country consistent with preparations for hijackings."

http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/04/10/bush.briefing/

[Chris Fleming]

There was a Fox news interview with a woman who said the same thing:



Seems this is a sort of talking point. If you repeat a lie again and again, it becomes the truth. The dumbed down American TV watcher will accept damn near anything as long as beer can be bought at the grocery store and the football game doesn't get interrupted. From there any suggestion can be implanted. Other such suggestions have been "there are WMD's in Iraq" and "we are fighting to spread democracy" and "we are in a war on terror".

[shawnsegler]

the course of empire.

[Michael]

Doublethink in action:

To know and not to know, to be conscious of complete truthfulness while telling carefully constructed lies, to hold simultaneously two opinions which cancelled out, knowing them to be contradictory and believing in both of them, to use logic against logic, to repudiate morality while laying claim to it, to believe that democracy was impossible and that the Party was the guardian of democracy, to forget whatever it was necessary to forget, then to draw it back into memory again at the moment when it was needed, and then promptly to forget it again: and above all, to apply the same process to the process itself. That was the ultimate subtlety: consciously to induce unconsciousness, and then, once again, to become unconscious of the act of hypnosis you had just performed. Even to understand the word ’doublethink’ involved the use of doublethink.

[Darth Rock&Roll]

the dumb leading the dumber into a cluster fuck of dumbness!

sweet.

[Ian]

funny coming from a guy who talks about 9/11 so much...

and there was a whole slew of terror attacks, failed and successful, post-9/11. I can think of five just off the top of my head.

[yusuf]

the dumb leading the dumber into a cluster fuck of dumbness!

sweet.

..and eminently repeatable given how many wingdings there are out there

[yeniseri]

They must believe the American people are too stupid not to notice!

[Chris Fleming]

They do.

[Darth Rock&Roll]

They do.

Unfortunately, in a great many cases, they are also correct in their assumptions.

I mean they sold the ingress into Iraq on 9/11 which was completely unrelated and 5 years later, many americans, (god bless their empty heads) thought Saddam was responsible for 9/11.

Meh, we have a lot of canucks who also think this way. It is truly baffling and saddening at the same time.

North America is the atypical dumbass rich kid in an overall sense.
Oh, yes, we harbour some oft he most brilliant minds on the planet, but unfortunately, we ahve a level field with the rest fo the planet when it comes to absolute idiots as well.

Oh well, beats living in somalia.

[AllanF]

That is just fecking hysterical! Love it!

[nianfong]

makes me sick. I used to respect giuliani. I'm just losing respect for the republicans as every year goes on. what was that saying again about how young people are democrats, and then they become republicans? At this rate I will never be associated with that much asshattery.

[D_Glenn]

Area Man Passionate Defender Of What He Imagines Constitution To Be
November 14, 2009 | Issue 45•46

ESCONDIDO, CA—Spurred by an administration he believes to be guilty of numerous transgressions, self-described American patriot Kyle Mortensen, 47, is a vehement defender of ideas he seems to think are enshrined in the U.S. Constitution and principles that brave men have fought and died for solely in his head.

Kyle Mortensen would gladly give his life to protect what he says is the Constitution's very clear stance against birth control.
"Our very way of life is under siege," said Mortensen, whose understanding of the Constitution derives not from a close reading of the document but from talk-show pundits, books by television personalities, and the limitless expanse of his own colorful imagination. "It's time for true Americans to stand up and protect the values that make us who we are."

According to Mortensen—an otherwise mild-mannered husband, father, and small-business owner—the most serious threat to his fanciful version of the 222-year-old Constitution is the attempt by far-left "traitors" to strip it of its religious foundation.

"Right there in the preamble, the authors make their priorities clear: 'one nation under God,'" said Mortensen, attributing to the Constitution a line from the Pledge of Allegiance, which itself did not include any reference to a deity until 1954. "Well, there's a reason they put that right at the top."

"Men like Madison and Jefferson were moved by the ideals of Christianity, and wanted the United States to reflect those values as a Christian nation," continued Mortensen, referring to the "Father of the Constitution," James Madison, considered by many historians to be an atheist, and Thomas Jefferson, an Enlightenment-era thinker who rejected the divinity of Christ and was in France at the time the document was written. "The words on the page speak for themselves."

According to sources who have read the nation's charter, the U.S. Constitution and its 27 amendments do not contain the word "God" or "Christ."

Mortensen said his admiration for the loose assemblage of vague half-notions he calls the Constitution has only grown over time. He believes that each detail he has pulled from thin air—from prohibitions on sodomy and flag-burning, to mandatory crackdowns on immigrants, to the right of citizens not to have their hard-earned income confiscated in the form of taxes—has contributed to making it the best framework for governance "since the Ten Commandments."

"And let's not forget that when the Constitution was ratified it brought freedom to every single American," Mortensen said.

Mortensen's passion for safeguarding the elaborate fantasy world in which his conception of the Constitution resides is greatly respected by his likeminded friends and relatives, many of whom have been known to repeat his unfounded assertions verbatim when angered. Still, some friends and family members remain critical.

"Dad's great, but listening to all that talk radio has put some weird ideas into his head," said daughter Samantha, a freshman at Reed College in Portland, OR. "He believes the Constitution allows the government to torture people and ban gay marriage, yet he doesn't even know that it guarantees universal health care."

Mortensen told reporters that he'll fight until the bitter end for what he roughly supposes the Constitution to be. He acknowledged, however, that it might already be too late to win the battle.

"The freedoms our Founding Fathers spilled their blood for are vanishing before our eyes," Mortensen said. "In under a year, a fascist, socialist regime has turned a proud democracy into a totalitarian state that will soon control every facet of American life."

"Don't just take my word for it," Mortensen added. "Try reading a newspaper or watching the news sometime."

http://www.theonion.com/content/news/ar ... efender_of

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[yusuf]

let me guess.. he's a fan of Glen Beck