Buddy wrote:And yet Mike it's really been other Iraquis and Arabs who have done most of the killings. I'm no Bush fan but to call him a mass murderer is sheer hyperbole. Hitler, Mao, Stalin mass murdered their own people. Bush only interrupted and rekindled an ages old feud. And he did it by deposing a despot ( that the West had installed...Shah, Sauds, etc). Perhaps despots are the only way of keeping order in the area? I hope not.
Yo' Buddy, for the sake of argument, and to limit the scope of this discussion to the topic of whether or not the 41st President of the United States is a mass murderer, let's set Iraq aside for a moment and talk about Panama in 1989 and
"Operation Just Cause". George H. W. Bush illegally ordered the invasion of the sovereign nation of Panama for the primary purpose of enacting revenge on his fellow cocaine trafficker and business partner, Manuel Noriega, who'd been on the CIA payroll even before Bush, Sr. became the head of one of the world's largest drug running operations in 1976. Of course I'm talking about the damnable CIA.
During "Operation Just Cause", the Orwellian nature of the name being enough to inspire disgust in any clear-thinking man, 3000-4000 Panamanian citizens were murdered as the results of Bush's orders when C-130 gunships and other newly available aircraft that needed live-fire testing indiscriminately fired upon civilian neighborhoods, the US military claiming that Panamanian Defense Force soldiers might be hiding there. Later it was revealed that several experimental weapons were tested in combat during the murder of these innocent Panamanian people and soldiers. I don't even know how many were seriously wounded. Try the 1992 film
The Panama Deception.
I have only read a few excerpts, but for more information on the 41st President of the United States of America, try Webster Griffin Tarpley's free ebook,
George Bush: The Unauthorized Biography. It traces his family's NAZI origins back to his father, the NAZI traitor Prescott Bush, who helped funnel millions of dollars to Hitler through the Thyssen family DURING World War 2, AFTER Germany had declared war on the US, and of course continues with H.W.'s induction into the CIA breeding ground: the Satanic, death-worshipping Skull & Bones secret society of Yale (daddy Prescott and son George, Jr. also joined), and on, and on, and on.
I want to make a little disclaimer to avoid any omelette and broken egg homilies. I don't expect any leader to be perfect or try to protect America without causing any harm to others. For example, I respect Andrew Jackson for killing the central bank of his time, which benefited 99.999% of all Americans, but I fault him for his horrendous Indian policies. Bush 41 does not, by any margin, fall into this category. With George H.W. Bush, it's not a question of imperfections. He ran the CIA from 76-77; the Presidency from 81-89 "under" Reagan (Bush was having dinner with the Hinckley family the night before the assassination attempt, merely a coincidence of course, but I think Ronnie got the .22 caliber hint); four years as POTUS with two wars; to a significant extent, he ran the Presidency another eight years continuing to handle CIA asset Clinton (they'd already done so well together running the massive CIA cocaine smuggling operation in Mena, Arkansas, the top pilot having been whacked just before turning state's evidence with H.W.'s private phone number in his pocket). There seems to be no limit to this man's crimes. He should not be allowed to feel as if he can stroll into a neighborhood pizza joint at his leisure. Let him sit at home and eat the damned money he earned trafficking coke!