chimerical tortoise wrote:AllanF: No question of Chinese economic imperialism? China's policy in FDI is far more effective in combating poverty and underdevelopment all over Africa than U2 and all the aid it raises, which in fact often stifles local economic development. In her book, Dead Aid, Dambisa Moyo devotes an entire chapter to discussing China's current situation there. Excerpts include:
"...many Africans scoff at the notion that Westerners should be outraged by Chinese implicit support for Africa's corrupt and rogue leaders. It is, after all, under the auspices of Western aid, goodwill and transparency that Africa's most notorious plunderers and despots have risen and thrived - Zaire's president Mobutu, Uganda's president Idi Amin and the CAR's 'Emperor' Bokassa, to name three."
"Noone can deny that China is at least in Africa for the oil, the gold, the copper and whatever else lies in the ground. But to say that the average African is not benefiting at all is a falsehood."
It's sad how some people seem to have their heads stuck in the 19th century and London's Crystal Palace. China itself is the product of economic imperialism to satisfy, among others, the North Atlantic bloc. A blind eye is turned to existing patterns of economic imperialism (i.e. Suharto's Indonesia and logging/agriculture by MNC's, Guatemala's cash crops) that are perpetuated by the North Atlantic. Meanwhile, any significant economic movement outside of this is considered "imperialism" as if the world is expected to learn from North Atlantic historical mistakes. Considering that the North Atlantic hasn't exactly learned from itself yet, methinks the pot is calling the kettle black.
Re-read what i typed i did not say economic imperialism as you state but colonialism...not the same thing! Furthermore i differentiated between economic and imperial colonialism.
Yes African nations are benefiting...in the short term. Did i deny that the western nations failed African?...er...no!
Incidentally do you think i am wrong? You seem to resort to pot/kettle argument without addressing the point i posed!!!!!
Many people from African are expressing concern that although China is building infrastructure etc they are not passing the skills on to the host nation and indeed instead of hiring local labour are bringing there own workforce with them...not just in Africa but pretty much anywhere they go. Not only that but they are flooding the market with cheap but low quality product with a very short shelf life. Not my opinion but those of many African people.
Is it better to give a man a fish so he can eat for a day or teach a man to fish so he can eat for a lifetime?
Will there come a time when China thinks that it needs to protect the security of its people and its interests by sending troops? This is the point!!!! This is when economic colonialism become imperial!!!!
Just to reiterate before you go putting words in my mouth at NO TIME did i say the west was doing/has done a fantastic job in Africa but just pointing out the obvious. Hardly got my head stuck in Crystal Palace quite to the contrary i am able to see warts and all.
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