Tea in Boston Harbor

[Chanchu]

Kennedy's senate seat went to a conservative in Boston WTF happened???

Buyer's remorse??? In November there will be a reckoning-- American people are pissed off. They evidentally do not want a Socialist/Communist state. Not even in M.A.

WTF happened???? how could it be??

I know it was a anomaly- stay the course! November will be here soon...

By the way Rebublican jack @$$'S who by your idiocy, got us into this mess we are sick of your B.S. too

Thank you

[Michael]

Just remember, it's not really a Republican or Democrat issue because they are both compromised and slaves to their corporate paymasters. The issue is freedom or tyranny with the only middle ground being an illusion of time waiting for the axe to fall. We move forward with greater and greater freedom, which means less and less centralization of power at every level of government and in every institution in our society, or we move backward with tyranny.

[klonk]

You need to have 5% to 10 % advantage in Massachusetts even to get past the voting dead.

[Chanchu]

I think we need to give people of the great state of Ma. credit! Amazing job! After 46 years of left wing control finally- A change they can believe in. Really surprised at the outcome of the vote. Remember- It is not a vote in favor of Republicans at ALL They failed miserably.

Its against the big goverment, more taxes, soc. med., mega debt, civilian disarmament, no sense bail outs, etc etc et al- of the Obama regime.

Viva la resistance!! good on you Harbor state friends!

[Michael]

Yes, way to go Massachusetts! An end to Tax-a-chusetts? Let's hope so.

[Walter Joyce]

Hate to burst the bubble but I wouldn't see it as a revolution, just a perfect storm of dis-satisfacion with the economy, unemployment and aid to the financial sector coupled with a charismatic politician (Brown) up against a bad democratic candidate (Caokley).

I'm curious to see what Brown will do and how this will effect health care. I believe the tide began to turn for him when he declared himself the 41st vote against health care. I'll admit the I was encourgaed a bit by his tone post-election. He has two years before the next election, it will be interesting to see what he does with that limited time.

Coakley ran a terrible campaign, if you can even call it that. In a five week campaign, she took one week off, showed contempt for basic campaigning when she ridiculed Brown for going out and pressing the flesh at Fenway on a cold winter day, she sucked in the debate, and then called Curt Schilling a Yankees fan and mispelled Massachusetts. Then Obama referred to her as Marsha when he came to campaign for her.

This was not a revolution, it was Mitt Romney versus Shannon O'Brien all over again. Brown even used the same campaign advisers as Romney did in the last republican route of a democrat here.

Intersting times.

I was relieved when Reid announced that the Dems would wait until Brown takes his seat before any vote on health-care bill is held.

Who knows, maybe Brown can turn the bill into something worth passing, but I doubt that.

[yusuf]

the real thing thats interesting is how Fox news including right wing wingnuts manged to mobilise enough people to win this election...

[Darth Rock&Roll]

I think having a super majority for either party in the senate is a bad idea.

electing Brown was a proper check and balance.

It's not like the senator of Massachusetts was just elected commander in chief. lol
It's a perfectly appropriate response to an unbalanced government seat wise.

Hopefully it is not used as an opportunity to not work. Which unfortunately may be exactly what it is and will lead to Obama having to veto stuff and stupid riders being earmarked into bills to stop them or to pass fatness on etc etc. It's not the seats or who's in them, it's the unscrupulous and dishonest way that business is done in washington.

Like a pack of sharks in suits not looking to help america but looking to feed off each other and gain popularity and position. That is no way to run a country and that is why america is having a lot of the problems it has.

[KEND]

I think that the election underscored the arrogance of the Democrats in Mass. Teddy Kennedy's seat was regarded as sacrosanct DOH. The Democrats seem to have inherited the hubris of the previous administration, trading on fear, perpetuating the military/industrial complex, packing the administration with the same anti environmentalist pro big business that took the Republicans down the road to disaster.
Even with the high percentage of sheeples there is a limit to the amount of bs that can be absorbed.

[Interloper]

I'm with Walter. The last thing cash-strapped people need during these hard economic times, is someone telling us we need to pay more taxes to fund programs that, at best, will provide only peripheral service and benefits to them.

And I agree with KEND that the Democratic politicians here (Massachusetts) have largely lost touch with their constituents (with the exception, IMO, of Congressman John Tierney, whom I believe is a genuine public servant following his conscience). Coakley was too "above" the people she would have been serving. Her political ads were offensive, too. Personally, I wasn't too thrilled with the experience of either candidate, but I found Scott Brown's earthier connection and focus on the issues that matter most to the residents of Massachuestts, to be the most pragmatic for now. Whether he holds to his campaign promises remains to be seen, of course.

[Chanchu]

We will find out in November how revolutionary its going to be,
I think that the American people will reject Obama's big gov't regime on a massive scale. Its not far off, we will soon see... Kend has the correct, also if the Kennedy seat that was held for near 1/2 century can be converted in M.A no left wingers are safe, Obama is a far left wing political . The voters have seen him for what he is about and they don't like it. His poll numbers are at a all time low, of course it could be just bad moves on the part of the lady who was running for Kennedy's senate seat. A fluke victory against far left wing ideas- yeah thats it! so stay the course! more taxes, more bail outs, more gov't take overs,- We will find out in November..

[Steve James]

MA is a big state with pockets of "liberals" (usually Democrats) surround by regions of relatively "conservative" working class people (who are sometimes Repubs). I'd say that it's also a state with a particularly 'commonwealth' structure that provides a lot of gov't services --like relatively good education and health care systems. Iinm, they're also taxed more. So, I can see how they might not want to mess with the system too much, except to lower taxes and costs. In the end, it's not the particular party to which the candidate belongs; it's which candidate the constituency feels will do the best for them.

[Michael]

Polls show Massachusetts voters identify themselves as 51% independent, which is the most significant thing in this election, IMO. Maybe they're wise to the fact the only difference between the two parties is in the rhetoric and not in the outcome.

[Buddy]

While I am happy that the "let's ram through the back room Socialist agenda" gets put on the next train home (and I held my nose and voted for the pin up boy), he's a MASSACHUSETTS Republican, not a conservative, that I can see. Certainly not a libertarian. I see him as McCain Jr. thus far.

[Walter Joyce]

I don't think Obama is far left at all. His military decisions have kind of shattered that myth.

As for his big government plans, the only one I think he had when he decided to run for the office was health care. The government bailouts and spending were actions that he took in reaction to the economic meltdown. It is easy to criticize what he did on that front, but who knows what would have happened to our economy and the global economy if he had done nothing. And remember, TARP was passed under Bush.

I'm not looking to pick a fight regarding the causes of the economic meltdown, there is plenty of blame to go around on that front. I will highlight two things done by the previous administration that were unprecedented in US history that definitely weakened the economy and especially contribured to the federal deficit.

The first item was for the previous administration to have conducted the wars in the middle-east and NOT accounting for the spending , which was dishonest and failed to accurately portray the financial impact the military expenditures were having on the deficit, pre-meltdown.

When you couple that with the second item: the unprecendented act of actually cutting taxes during war-time the deficit grows exponentially.

No other administratioin has simultaneously conducted major military involvement with tax cuts in the histroy of the US. The impact that had on the deficit left us completely unprepared for economic crisis.

I think the importance of these issues has been almost completely over-looked by the average citizen.

My parting thought, politics have become far too partisan, and concerned more with maintianing power than actual governing.

Maybe Michael is on to something by stressing the importance of the Independents. If we let go of the labels democrat and republican, liberal and conservative, and start looking at the issues and proposed solutions in a more pragmatic and less ideological way maybe we can turn things around.

I have to admit though, I'm wondering if this is the begining of the end of America as the super-power world leader.

And if so, what clountry will fill the void?

China?