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Is this true?

Postby zenman on Mon Mar 22, 2010 6:02 am

I'm always getting religious crap and stuff about Obama ruining the country from my mother-in-law. Normally I just delete it. But I actually read this one (below) and asked a Muslin friend about it (via email). I didn't get the usually detailed response other than something to the effect that someone was out to get Obama. So, who knows?

Here it is just as I received it:

Shepard Smith, Fox News.

If you check Obama's last trip over seas, his wife left just after their
visit to France as stated below. She has yet to accompany him to any Arab
country. Think about it. This was sent to me from a very good and reliable
friend. The pieces of the puzzle just keep on coming together! Interesting...

Travel for Obama
I was at a Blockbusters renting videos, and as I was going along the wall,
there was a video called "Obama". There were two men next to me. We talked about Obama. These guys were Arabs and I asked them why they thought Michele Obama headed home following her visit in France instead of
traveling on to Saudi Arabia and Turkey with her husband. They told me
she couldn't go to Saudi Arabia , Turkey or Iraq . I said "Laura Bush
went to Saudi Arabia , Turkey and Dubai ."

They said that Obama is a Muslim, and by Muslim law he would not be
allowed to bring his wife into countries that accept Sharia Law. I just
thought it was interesting that two Arabs at Blockbusters accept the idea
that we're being led by a Muslim who follows the Islamic creed.

They also said that's the reason he bowed to the King of Saudi Arabia . It
was a signal to the Muslim world..

Just thought you would like to know.

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When I received this it made sense to me, but there were also a couple
blank spots. Thus, I sent it to a friend who is a Middle Eastern Scholar
and expert, Dr. Jim Murk. Here is his explanation that states a little
clearer what the Arabs at Blockbuster were saying..

"An orthodox Muslim man would never take his wife on a politically
oriented trip to any nation which practices shari'ah law, which includes
Saudi Arabia . This is true and it is why Obama left Michelle in Europe
or at home when he went to especially Arab countries. He knows Muslim
protocol; this included his bowing to the Saudi king.. Obama is regarded
as a Muslim in these countries simply because he was born to a Muslim
father. Note that he has downplayed his Christianity--even spoke of his
Muslim faith with George Stephanopoulus --by not publicly joining a
Christian church in D.C., but simply attending the chapel or services at
Camp David . He also played down the fact that the USA was a Christian
country and said, unbelievably, that it was one of the largest Muslim
nations in the world, which is nonsense. He has also publicly taken the
part of the Palestinians in the conflict with Israel . Finally he ignored
the National Day of Prayer. He is bad newsl He is God's judgment on America ." Jim Murk

Thus once again ACTIONS speak louder than words. Check out Obama's. Do
they appear treasonous to you or is it just millions of us who think so?
God help us!

Have you wondered why Barack Hussein Obama has insisted that the U.S.
Attorney General hold the trials for the 911 Murdering Muslims Terrorists
in Civilian Courts as Common Criminals instead of as Terrorists who
attacked the United States of America ?

Think about this: If the Muslim Terrorists are tried in Military
Tribunals, convicted, and sentenced to DEATH by the Military Tribunal, BY
LAW of the United States , Barack Hussein Obama, as President of the
United States, would be required to SIGN their Death Warrants before they could be EXECUTED. He would not be required to sign the death warrants if
sentenced to death by a Civilian Court . Think about the Muslim Jihadist,
Major Hassan who slaughtered his fellow soldiers at Ft. Hood , Texas ..
Major Hassan did not want to go to Afghanistan and be a part of anything
that could lead to the deaths of fellow Muslims. He stated that Muslims
could not and should not KILL FELLOW MUSLIMS.

Is the motive for Barack Hussein Obama's decision to make sure he doesn't
have to sign the death warrants for the Muslim Terrorists? Why would he,
as President of the United States , not want to sign the death warrants
for Muslim Terrorists who attacked the United States and MURDERED over 3,000 innocent United States Citizens on 9/11? Could it be that he is FORBIDDEN BY HIS RELIGION to have anything to do with the execution of Muslims?

Think about that!!! Join me in opening our ears, eyes and minds to what
THEIR President is doing. PLEASE pass this along to your friends if you
agree that this sounds reasonable.
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Re: Is this true?

Postby Darth Rock&Roll on Mon Mar 22, 2010 6:33 am

still going with the Obama's a Muslim stuff eh?

lol

People believe what they want. Kenyans want Obama to be Kenyan, because he's half black you see.
Muslims want him to be Muslim, because his dad was you see.

People can't get passed their own prejudice when they look at this guy.
Even Americans are flabbergasted. This is their first president that isn't and old white dude.

If it was a women, it would be a whole different set of prejudice that would unravel.

But man on the street opinions mean little really.
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Re: Is this true?

Postby Michael on Mon Mar 22, 2010 6:37 am

Obama's older than JFK. Just noting.
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Re: Is this true?

Postby Steve James on Mon Mar 22, 2010 6:52 am

Is the motive for Barack Hussein Obama's decision to make sure he doesn't have to sign the death warrants for the Muslim Terrorists? Why would he, as President of the United States , not want to sign the death warrants
for Muslim Terrorists who attacked the United States and MURDERED over 3,000 innocent United States Citizens on 9/11? Could it be that he is FORBIDDEN BY HIS RELIGION to have anything to do with the execution of Muslims?


Well, how about the most obvious things first? As CiC, the POTUS is responsible for the deaths of Muslims every day. Not to mention that Muslims have little problem killing each other on a regular basis. (Christians do at least as well, just without all the publicity). But, in any case, condemning someone because of his father's religion is almost as stupidly low as one can go. There's no way to respond without being insulting. Wow, I think I used to listen to Shepard Smith sometimes.
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Re: Is this true?

Postby cdobe on Mon Mar 22, 2010 6:53 am

Turkey doesn't accept Sharia law...
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Re: Is this true?

Postby Muad'dib on Mon Mar 22, 2010 7:15 am

Have you wondered why Barack Hussein Obama has insisted that the U.S.
Attorney General hold the trials for the 911 Murdering Muslims Terrorists
in Civilian Courts as Common Criminals instead of as Terrorists who
attacked the United States of America ?


I suspect this has something to do with the Constitution.

Thus, I sent it to a friend who is a Middle Eastern Scholar
and expert, Dr. Jim Murk


Dr. Jim Murk, evangelical christian and author of Islam Rising? This Dr. Jim Murk?

http://www.murkfamilyministries.org/angelfm.html

Who, amongst other things, is notably lacking the ability to speak Arabic? Which, if I migh be so bold, is generally a prerequisite for Arab or Muslim Studies.
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Re: Is this true?

Postby bailewen on Mon Mar 22, 2010 7:23 am

And furthermore....

Who gives a fuck if he's muslim?

Is it now illegal to be a muslim in this country? I thought we had some sort of separation between Church and state? Let's just pretend for a moment....PRETEND...that he really is a muslim.

What's yer point?

Is that supposed to be some sort of a slam? I didn't know the country had become that racist. ...or is it a religious war? ....

Thank God I never had the inclination to go the political route. Being named "Omar" and all I suppose my Jewish routes would take a side seat to the fact that my parents were involved with a "muslim cult" back when I was a kid.....hell, there even somewhat active today. (lookup "Subud") Somehow I missed where we established a national religion.
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Re: Is this true?

Postby DeusTrismegistus on Mon Mar 22, 2010 7:26 am

Honestly I dont care if Obama is muslim, I dislike him for his political views. If he is truly a muslim but is hiding it for political gain then that does bother me. If you are truly faithful to your religion you shouldn't hide it from the country if you are the president, shouldn't announce it or proselytize either but if it comes up he shouldn't be ashamed of it.
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Re: Is this true?

Postby Muad'dib on Mon Mar 22, 2010 7:29 am

I don't think he's hiding shit. He was a member of a christian church long before 9/11.
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Re: Is this true?

Postby DeusTrismegistus on Mon Mar 22, 2010 8:04 am

As for true elements of the above.
On Obama's behavior for the national day of prayer.
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/200 ... y-no-show/

Obama on ABC slipping and saying "my Muslim faith" and correcting it by saying "my christian faith".



And Snopes busted the Sharia Law thing.
http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/sharia.asp

And I don't know about the muslim terrorist thing and not wanting to sign their death warrants however capital punishment is allowed according to the Quran.
http://islam.about.com/cs/law/a/c_punishment.htm

"...If anyone kills a person - unless it be for murder or for spreading mischief in the land - it would be as if he killed all people. And if anyone saves a life, it would be as if he saved the life of all people" (Qur'an 5:32).

Life is sacred, according to Islam and most other world faiths. But how can one hold life sacred, yet still support capital punishment? The Qur'an answers, "...Take not life, which God has made sacred, except by way of justice and law. Thus does He command you, so that you may learn wisdom" (6:151).



If people are going to criticize Obama it should be for intelligent reasons and not for BS like this, it just makes all his other detractors look bad.

[note, sorry deus, I edited your post by accident. tried to put it back as it was, but lemme know if I screwed it up -Fong]
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Re: Is this true?

Postby yusuf on Mon Mar 22, 2010 9:24 am

he must be a muslim because he is actually the illegitimate son of Malcolm X -break-
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Re: Is this true?

Postby Muad'dib on Mon Mar 22, 2010 9:57 am

4. I pledge to be respectful of others, even in their differences.


BTW, this quote is taken from your own Principles of Integrity.
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Re: Is this true?

Postby Walter Joyce on Mon Mar 22, 2010 2:48 pm

Seriously, what the feck is wrong with you conspiracy people?
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Re: Is this true?

Postby Darth Rock&Roll on Mon Mar 22, 2010 3:51 pm

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Re: Is this true?

Postby Steve James on Mon Mar 22, 2010 4:19 pm

I thought we had some sort of separation between Church and state?


Imo, only in the sense that there isn't a national "Church." What we're supposed to have (guaranteed by the Constitution people bring up so frequently) is "freedom of religion." Of course, you can't really have that, or pretend to, if an individual isn't "free" to practice the religion he chooses. Well, otoh, a person is free to be a Muslim (er, except when it's more convenient to say that he was born into the religion), he just shouldn't expect to be treated like other people or have the same opportunities (such as holding public office).

Now, what happens if the person finds out that the religion that we really are "free" to have here is more attractive and he decides to convert --or practice his mother's faith? For some people, that's still too bad. Hmm, I think in Jewish tradition (and American tradition/law), the condition of the child follows the Mother. So, maybe in Saudi Arabia he'd be Muslim, but he ain't here. Even if so, I haven't heard of a test for Muslim blood --though I bet there are scientists working on it just because of Obama.

All in all, though. I really love this shit, this "cultured hell" as one poet put it. It'd take a Shakespeare to make this stuff up. Anyway, there are those out there who universally condemn X-tians or Hindus (or communists or Russians) or Jews or Mexicans. Or worse, they just condemn "most" of those, because "some" of them are ok. How fracking intelligent is that? I can't tell anymore; I've gotten used to it. Haven't understood it since I was a kid, but it's like the Twilight Zone, I just can't deny it.
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