Robert Smith vs. GM Chang

[Andy_S]

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it is not right to leave lies in a published book to make one look good.
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This is where, I think, Smith cannot be faulted.

At the time of writing, he was NOT promoting Judo. He gave up practicing and teaching Judo soon after learning Taiji. He had no ulterior motive for knocking SC - and he was pretty reverential about other CMA (particularly the internals).

[salcanzonieri]

From what I was told by people "who were there" during those times, was that the gov't of Taiwan told GM Chang to let Smith win, not to show him what they know, because Smith was CIA.

[johnwang]

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it is not right to leave lies in a published book to make one look good.
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This is where, I think, Smith cannot be faulted.

At the time of writing, he was NOT promoting Judo. He gave up practicing and teaching Judo soon after learning Taiji. He had no ulterior motive for knocking SC - and he was pretty reverential about other CMA (particularly the internals).

It's not Judo vs. SC. It's Robert Smith vs. GM Chang. It was personal conflict and not style conflict. During that time, the 24th class of the Central Police Academy was not strong. There were only 2 good students in that class. Robert had fought one of those 2, Wang Mao-Chou (favor move - front waist belt lifting kick) and the result was "tie".

Roger Su had wrote this article in "Wu Lin" magazine in Taiwan. Roger asked David C. K. Lin to write the same article in US. David C. K. Lin then ask me to write this article in US. This is why I dig this ancient history out. It's not because I have nothing better to do. It's my job

[JAB]

There is so much BS surrounding Chang it really makes me wonder why? No offense to anyone, but I would have loved to have been a fly on the wall back in the day. He was an amazing man either way, but it really begs the question why there is so much garbage associated with him, and even within his own school/organization.
In the end all any of this does is stroke an ego. Whos, I do not know.
Jake

[DeusTrismegistus]

I don't know anything about the GM Chang Smith BS but I do know that people use Robert Smith's books as reliable references and the information it has imparted on its readers is not at all representative of the shuai jiao GM Chang taught.

[xxxxx]

This would be a safer place for that type of discussion. Continue.

[H2O_Dragon]

Oh great, the XXXXX police are still around. No, I never had a problem with the group personally, I just feel you stmy speech way too much if someone disagrees with the herd. <-- political statement

[qiphlow]

from whom did gm chang learn his taiji? just curious.

[Darthwing Teorist]

Robert Smith is obviously biased. Too bad, because he has a nice writing style but I can't take his books seriously anymore after having read Martial Musings.

[TaoBoxer]

Robert Smith is obviously biased. Too bad, because he has a nice writing style but I can't take his books seriously anymore after having read Martial Musings.

Ditto. I have first editions of most of his books, but Martial Musings put a nail in the coffin.

Lewitt

[nianfong]

GM Chang's taichi is from general li jing lin.

[nianfong]

larry, I would move it here too, even though I'm obviously biased towards the "robert smith is full of shit" perspective.

[Bär]

Robert Smith is soooo depressed you're talking about him this way.

[fisherman]

HA! And Emo's think they are original?

[qiphlow]

GM Chang's taichi is from general li jing lin.

thanks, fong.