Interweb Challenges!

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Interweb Challenges!

Postby Bhassler on Mon Dec 27, 2010 9:37 am

What's your favorite interweb challenge story?

I once made a disparaging comment about a semi-famous peng-headed taiji fellow, who subsequently tracked me down on another, non-MA-related website, and started blustering about how I made an unprovoked attack and how he was going to be in town and would I say it to his face. We went back and forth via email, and I was assailed with an array of arguments and implied threats that were staggering in their convolutedness, at which point I finally told the gent he was nonsensical and deluded, and mentioned that if I thought he was actually a threat it was far more likely that I would arm myself with an array of knives and/or firearms rather than cower fearfully by my keyboard. He continued to woof a little more and finished with what presumably was meant to be an ominous "see you soon!" and that was the last I heard from him.

It was really an astonishing experience, as I had thought the days of internet challenges were for the most part long since past-- especially since this was coming from someone who must be in his 50's or even 60's.

So... who else has got an internet challenge story from the days of yore? (Nammies need not respond...)
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Re: Interweb Challenges!

Postby neijia_boxer on Mon Dec 27, 2010 10:00 am

I actually liked the wing Chun: Emin vs William Chung thing from the mid-90's.
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Re: Interweb Challenges!

Postby Peacedog on Mon Dec 27, 2010 10:30 am

Mr. Zero and I got into it back in distant past via email. It ended when I envited him out to the West Bank to cross hands.

Any of the Gary Clyman sucks threads are always entertaining. Regardless of how you think about him personally or his marketing, everyone who knows Gary personally agrees on one thing: he can fight. He also likes to mix it up. I've never met anyone trash talking the man who had actually crossed hands with him.
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Re: Interweb Challenges!

Postby Dr.Rob on Mon Dec 27, 2010 10:30 am

No No No ..hands down Erle Montaguie vs. George Dillman. Best letter on the web evea posted on his website.
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Re: Interweb Challenges!

Postby Tom on Mon Dec 27, 2010 10:57 am

Bhassler wrote:What's your favorite interweb challenge story?

I once made a disparaging comment about a semi-famous peng-headed taiji fellow, who subsequently tracked me down on another, non-MA-related website, and started blustering about how I made an unprovoked attack and how he was going to be in town and would I say it to his face. We went back and forth via email, and I was assailed with an array of arguments and implied threats that were staggering in their convolutedness, at which point I finally told the gent he was nonsensical and deluded, and mentioned that if I thought he was actually a threat it was far more likely that I would arm myself with an array of knives and/or firearms rather than cower fearfully by my keyboard. He continued to woof a little more and finished with what presumably was meant to be an ominous "see you soon!" and that was the last I heard from him.

It was really an astonishing experience ...


Hmmm . . . I think I know the gentleman you are referring to. After a number of similar online experiences, I showed up where he was teaching one day, introduced myself, and said that I would enjoy learning from him. He made a studied attempt to avoid me the rest of the weekend. Not surprisingly, he challenged another member of this forum to meet with him when he was going to be in that person's town for another seminar, and the forum member went so far as to set up a place and time convenient for this gentleman, but this gentleman backed off via e-mail at the last minute, saying it "wasn't worth" his time.

I used to have an e-mail archive of similar experiences from several dozen other people, where a typical tactic adopted was for the gentleman in question to e-mail and badger the teachers of these people and make arguments and veiled threats and general attempts to poison the student-teacher relationships. Of course, since he didn't profess a commitment to any specific teacher or style himself, these teachers couldn't get ahold of his teachers to involke a little wu de.

When this wasn't enough, he got himself banned from a number of public forums, including an aikido forum (does anyone ever get banned from an aikido forum?). Now he's set up his own private forum where apparently he bans forum members without warning at will. He reads forums like this one to decide who he's never going to let on his little private forum.

As you say, it's "astonishing," because he's got some genuinely good insights about basic principles and training methods. I wouldn't characterize him as a "taiji" guy, though, because, beyond its first basic form, he never completed the curriculum of the particular style he embraced and can't be said to have mastered its methods.

Then again, maybe we aren't talking about the same guy. ;)
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Re: Interweb Challenges!

Postby Daniel on Mon Dec 27, 2010 11:01 am

Tom wrote:he got himself banned from a number of public forums, including an aikido forum (does anyone ever get banned from an aikido forum?).


LOL. ;D


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Re: Interweb Challenges!

Postby Bhassler on Mon Dec 27, 2010 12:07 pm

I don't know if it's the same guy or not, but if so he won't get very far calling my teachers because they're the ones who first taught him.....
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Re: Interweb Challenges!

Postby Chris Fleming on Mon Dec 27, 2010 3:42 pm

Don't talk shit on Facebook. Someone might come in your house and bitch slap you.

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Re: Interweb Challenges!

Postby Bhassler on Mon Dec 27, 2010 3:58 pm

Chris Fleming wrote:Don't talk shit on Facebook. Someone might come in your house and bitch slap you.

http://www.worldstarhiphop.com/videos/v ... 301D502Hc0


Who was videotaping that? We have a seriously weird culture, nowadays....
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Re: Interweb Challenges!

Postby jonathan.bluestein on Mon Dec 27, 2010 4:19 pm

Dr.Rob wrote:No No No ..hands down Erle Montaguie vs. George Dillman. Best letter on the web evea posted on his website.


LOL! WTF was that about? Can anyone post this thing again? Couldn't find it on google...
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Re: Interweb Challenges!

Postby williamwilson666 on Mon Dec 27, 2010 4:24 pm

jonathan.bluestein wrote:
Dr.Rob wrote:No No No ..hands down Erle Montaguie vs. George Dillman. Best letter on the web evea posted on his website.


LOL! WTF was that about? Can anyone post this thing again? Couldn't find it on google...


Erle published a full account of his dissatisfaction with Dillman and his conduct on his website a long time ago:

http://www.taijiworld.com/taiji-qigong/ ... george.htm


There maybe more if you browse further.
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Re: Interweb Challenges!

Postby Iskendar on Mon Dec 27, 2010 11:20 pm

Daniel wrote:
Tom wrote:he got himself banned from a number of public forums, including an aikido forum (does anyone ever get banned from an aikido forum?).


LOL. ;D


LOL indeed. So aikiweb finally kicked him out? :P Might as well name him with this kind of bio. Or maybe not, Segs may throw a fit ;D
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Re: Interweb Challenges!

Postby shawnsegler on Mon Dec 27, 2010 11:57 pm

He's a jackass who can't keep his aura of superiority unless he's preaching to peeps who don't know anything.

Oh, and he's got 0 percent social skills.

All around not worth spending any time on.

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Re: Interweb Challenges!

Postby wayne hansen on Tue Dec 28, 2010 12:49 am

williamwilson666 wrote:
jonathan.bluestein wrote:
Dr.Rob wrote:No No No ..hands down Erle Montaguie vs. George Dillman. Best letter on the web evea posted on his website.


LOL! WTF was that about? Can anyone post this thing again? Couldn't find it on google...


Erle published a full account of his dissatisfaction with Dillman and his conduct on his website a long time ago:

http://www.taijiworld.com/taiji-qigong/ ... george.htm


There maybe more if you browse further.


i was around at the time and remember what earl was teaching before he attended the dillman seminas and what he was teaching after.
the one thing earl learned from being a failed pop star was media manipulation.
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Re: Interweb Challenges!

Postby williamwilson666 on Tue Dec 28, 2010 2:00 am

Erle published a full account of his dissatisfaction with Dillman and his conduct on his website a long time ago:

http://www.taijiworld.com/taiji-qigong/ ... george.htm


There maybe more if you browse further.[/quote]

i was around at the time and remember what earl was teaching before he attended the dillman seminas and what he was teaching after.
the one thing earl learned from being a failed pop star was media manipulation.[/quote]









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