the rum soaked fist: internal martial arts forum

Pah! I challenged you all to do my horse stance and only Teshu could do it - rum soaked wimps!

Stuff it you woman from bath....ie..bath...woman.....

neijia_boxer wrote:The best bagua person will walk the circle more times than the other person. Lets start a Guinness book or worlds record! Dave..John....start walking.

Man. I just started really searching the forums and I dont want to dig up the past, but I have to say.... I LOVE THIS DRAMA BETWEEN YANG GUO TAI"S STUDENTS!!! So good! I just grab some popcorn and a 45 oz diet coke and enjoy.

I only met Yang three or four times but I sort of think everyone should get together and show their forms, walk the circle and then spar. That way those with something other then quotes from a book or their teacher will be evident. As far as who trained the longest bla bla bla.. Just because you go to high school for 15 years doesn't make you the best. Anyways I've watched videos and seen some of Yang's students do their stuff and thus have my own opinions. To all though I guess its about being humble, training hard and living with honor. Just like Tom Cruise in the "Last Samurai", or was that "Far and Away"? Cant quite remember.

Back in the early 1990's I had a fairly sizable school in Maryland, and was co-founder of the North America Chinese Martial Arts Federation. I used to get phone challenges all the time (this was before the web). Sometimes these guys would show up, generally not. Never had anyone show up I could not handle. It got tiresome -one day I was busy teaching, and my friend Dan Miller was sitting in my office working on some material for an upcoming PaKua Journal. The phone rang and I let Dan take it - it was some schmoe calling with a "challenge". Dan's reply: " ok, but he's busy fighting off some other challengers - you'll have to take a ticket and stand in line". Dead silence, then "click".

Dan had the best dead pan delivery I have ever seen - I laughed my ass off.

Another chucklehead, alluded to at the very beginning of this thread, a guy with no social skills whatsoever, used to call about once a month and ask for advice and opinions, then bloviate interminably about his own skills, make anti-semitic and anti-black remarks left and right but mostly directed at me (which is incredible, considering that I am neither), then angrily challenge me before hanging up. It was somewhere between entertaining, annoying, and pathetic. Nothing ever came of it, and he was very cordial when we met briefly in Houston some time later.

My favorite challenge came on old EF.

Someone was asking about Matt Furrey and someone else didn't think much of Matt and said so.

Then Matt Furrey found out about it somehow, created an account and told the guy (who didn't like him) that if wasn't convinced of Matt's wrestling abilities he would happy to drop him on his head.

Needless to say the conversation ended there.

Anything beyond friendly sport challenges are asinine and juvenile no matter who is participating. We study this material to protect ourselves or others from real predators, not each other. Purposefully injuring another person for anything other than unavoidable reasons is immoral.

I agree on that one.

If people want to challenge someone else that´s up to them, but I think the time and energy could be spent doing something useful instead.


D.

Sarcasm. Oh yeah, like that´ll work.

Chris McKinley wrote:Anything beyond friendly sport challenges are asinine and juvenile no matter who is participating. We study this material to protect ourselves or others from real predators, not each other. Purposefully injuring another person for anything other than unavoidable reasons is immoral.

It just depends on the context.
Here and now, I would say yes, that is mostly true, especially because otherwise we stand a very real chance of falling prey to the krotty kid/kung fu wizard delusion that so plagues the world of TMA. On the other hand, one hundred years ago in China, dudes made their living at this stuff while using it in many different ways. Being successful at a challenge match could enable you to become very famous and rich later.
Now the sport platform allows that sort of thing to happen.
Groovy,
sport and the fact that Li Cunyi has been dead for ages allows me not to get cut down with his saber, unless I happen to meet a lineage descendent who owns it and tries to hack me to bits!!

life is good.

Hmmm, Guo Yunshen´s baijiucup could still be around... Still sounds a bit risky, Mix.


D.

Sarcasm. Oh yeah, like that´ll work.

Chris McKinley wrote:Anything beyond friendly sport challenges are asinine and juvenile no matter who is participating. We study this material to protect ourselves or others from real predators, not each other. Purposefully injuring another person for anything other than unavoidable reasons is immoral.

Quite so. Right on.

Besides, I am an avowed pacifist, and I'll pommel anyone who says I am not!

And hey, anyone wanna pm me who the Taiji dude is who is being discussed at the beginning of this thread, just so I can be sure to avoid him? Thanks in advance...

Doc Stier wrote:

Chris McKinley wrote:Anything beyond friendly sport challenges are asinine and juvenile no matter who is participating. We study this material to protect ourselves or others from real predators, not each other. Purposefully injuring another person for anything other than unavoidable reasons is immoral.

Quite so. Right on.

Besides, I am an avowed pacifist, and I'll pommel anyone who says I am not!

I'm a pacifist,
yeah, I'ma pass a fist through some hippie's face...

Ba-ding-qing! <-- humour drums in Chinese pinyin.

oh, geez,
just remembered,
I recently got challenged not to challenge someone on the net.

A fellow found my old youtube account after I made a post about my trip to Hebei,
called me a fatty (apparently either missed the memo or somehow found out about the ten pounds I gained in Sapporo by eating Kara-age kun with my girlfriend every day. kara-age kun is tasty!), said there was no way that any of the stuff I was saying was true, and told me not to be a bitch and try to throw down an interweb challenge against him.
He had pestered me and our school a bit in the past. Think he may have been a bagua flunky who studied with my teacher for several years and left in a huff because he couldn't have his way about some sort of lineage related thing.
If it is the same guy,
he actually once threatened me in an email too....
squeez louise!!
what a crazy!!

Mix, you get the award for Internet challenge by proxy. I'm counting twice or thrice drawing teacher into ridiculous web conflicts.