Re: Tim Cartmell's Standing Grappling, Escapes & Counters DVD

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Re: Tim Cartmell's Standing Grappling, Escapes & Counters DVD

Postby kshurika on Sun Feb 20, 2011 9:49 pm

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Hi, my name's kshurika. I didn't start this thread. An administrator did, while waiting to speak to his probation officer.





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Re: Tim Cartmell's Standing Grappling, Escapes & Counters DVD

Postby Josealb on Sun Feb 20, 2011 11:20 pm

The dvd is not about street fighting, or street grappling. So what shooter says make sense.
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Re: Tim Cartmell's Standing Grappling, Escapes & Counters DVD

Postby GrahamB on Sun Feb 20, 2011 11:40 pm

If only one of them had worn a balaclava and some camo pants. It could all have been so different..... ;)
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Re: Tim Cartmell's Standing Grappling, Escapes & Counters DVD

Postby everything on Mon Feb 21, 2011 8:35 am

someone should wear a ninja mask and attack in an alley or stairwell with a sword.

there is plenty to be learned and applied from sport and ima contexts. no one is denying that. geez. we like ima and sports here. :-\ ::) vid looks awesome. but as far as "street" goes, where is Chris McKinley when you need him to go on a rant about it? nvm, there is already the gun violence thread.
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Re: Tim Cartmell's Standing Grappling, Escapes & Counters DVD

Postby BruceP on Mon Feb 21, 2011 3:27 pm

Yeah people get jumped, mugged, mobbed etc because they aren't disciplined

Like that guy I read about in the paper this morning who got jumped by some random dude while waiting for a cab. How undisciplined can you get?

Some junkie with voices in his head attacked my neighbor as he exited a local grocery store with his girlfriend because the voices said so. The voices said the target lacked discipline so he was not to be negotiated with. Shit like that happens all the time.

If people were more disciplined they wouldn't get in street fights.
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Re: Tim Cartmell's Standing Grappling, Escapes & Counters DVD

Postby kshurika on Mon Feb 21, 2011 3:35 pm

Sorry to hear about your neighbor, Shooter. These second-hand stories certainly are powerful. Now, have you ever been in a fight, or are you like 98.437% of the posters here on RSF?


btw, I believe that Tim's been in a fight or two.
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Re: Tim Cartmell's Standing Grappling, Escapes & Counters DVD

Postby Chris Fleming on Mon Feb 21, 2011 3:44 pm

Shooter wrote:If people were more disciplined they wouldn't get in street fights.
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Re: Tim Cartmell's Standing Grappling, Escapes & Counters DVD

Postby GrahamB on Mon Feb 21, 2011 3:52 pm

Yeah, if trouble ever comes to me I'll whip out my laptop and ask him to stop so I can watch the DVD, because, you inow it says "street" somewhere in the description. I just hope Mt Mugger is ok with this.
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Re: Tim Cartmell's Standing Grappling, Escapes & Counters DVD

Postby internalenthusiast on Mon Feb 21, 2011 3:56 pm

it's great (a good thing) to have discipline to avoid confrontation.

sometimes, stuff happens. even if one is trying to be smart.

i like tim's tape. it's good info.

i like the objectivity and clarity of tim's presentation.
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Re: Tim Cartmell's Standing Grappling, Escapes & Counters DVD

Postby strawdog on Mon Feb 21, 2011 4:01 pm

If you have discipline from training it is easier to avoid, overcome, out smart, de-escalate confrontations/attacks. Just because you're disciplined doesn't mean you won't get attack by random nut jobs.

Making sweeping generalizations is fun.


So does skipping in the woods like little red riding hood. And twisting other peoples comments just because you're a jealous has-been in the woods grinding corn just makes your look more desperate for attention.
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Re: Tim Cartmell's Standing Grappling, Escapes & Counters DVD

Postby yusuf on Mon Feb 21, 2011 4:05 pm

strawdog wrote:If you have discipline from training it is easier to avoid, overcome, out smart, de-escalate confrontations/attacks. Just because you're disciplined doesn't mean you won't get attack by random nut jobs.

Making sweeping generalizations is fun.


So does skipping in the woods like little red riding hood. And twisting other peoples comments just because you're a jealous has-been in the woods grinding corn just makes your look more desperate for attention.



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Re: Tim Cartmell's Standing Grappling, Escapes & Counters DVD

Postby kshurika on Mon Feb 21, 2011 4:09 pm

Hey, what's wrong with skipping in the woods like Little Red Riding Hood? I LIKE skipping in the woods like Little Red Riding Hood! It's what keeps me out of all those street fights...... that and my vaunted discipline.
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Re: Tim Cartmell's Standing Grappling, Escapes & Counters DVD

Postby internalenthusiast on Mon Feb 21, 2011 4:28 pm

to be honest, i think the skipping through the woods is short-changing shooter.

it's a good method of covering ground, in certain circumstances. skipping kicks in long fist, and tcc exist. look them up? :)

it's a way to rhythmically cover space...

i do like tim's video. and think it's of worth. of course. in fact i think it's very good.

but there's no reason to disparage others...

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Re: Tim Cartmell's Standing Grappling, Escapes & Counters DVD

Postby kshurika on Mon Feb 21, 2011 4:47 pm

I forgot to mention that while I'm out skipping in the woods I almost never disparage others.
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Re: Tim Cartmell's Standing Grappling, Escapes & Counters DVD

Postby strawdog on Mon Feb 21, 2011 4:51 pm

I make it a daily discipline to skip in the woods because I never know if I'll be attacked by another nut job skipping in the woods. kshurika... :D
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