RobP2 wrote:bailewen wrote:As usual, 2/3 or so of the posters are responding to just keywords in the responses rather than to actual comments being presented.
+1 - as demonstrated above Touchy aren't we
yusuf wrote:
the dvd seems to have many positive merits, the only thing stopping me buying it is the thought that my hard earned money will be going to support a teacher that has these people as his representatives...
Andy_S wrote:Learning to fight on mats and wearing gi makes perfect sense, as you are far, far, far more likely to be attacked and have to defend yourself in your martial arts class - where sparring is part of the training - than on da streetz where you may never need to use the skills you have learned.
Adaption is part of human behaviour. In the broad scheme of things, I think it is far more important to learn combative skills and reach a point where you can apply them comfortably (eg on mats, in gi) than to prioritize "environmental training" over foundation skill building and application.
JAB wrote:Yusuf
You are right about one thing... no one gives a rats ass!
If you were really interested you would have bought it already. You are just talking smack thinking you are more clever then you are!
JAB
Shooters comments just made me look at a the stuff more closely to see what he mean't.. i agree but i see enough in the clip to consider buying the dvd.. the only thing thats put me off is the vitriol from Tim's students...I'm sure these guys don't give a rats arse about my opinion as a forumite or even my existence, but they should as I am also a potential customer...
the dvd seems to have many positive merits, the only thing stopping me buying it is the thought that my hard earned money will be going to support a teacher that has these people as his representatives...
I happen to study with the guy, but it seems that on RSF, the only noted martial arts teacher whose mention immediately starts this "he doesn't teach the real stuff" bullshit is Tim Cartmell. Just bring up the "Xing Yi Nei Gong" book and it's off to the races! And, it's always the same names chiming in - many of whom haven't even stood on the same continent with Tim. Some of them even think that taiji is a martial art, for God's sake! Why don't you just take a break from your grindingly boring jobs, come out to Orange County, challenge Tim and see how realistic he is (or isn't)? In that way, you could quit your pussyish whining that always comes up in these discussions, usually involving a variation of "Tim's guys are rude and don't like it when others express their views ". Here's my view: There's a nice asphalt parking lot in front of Ace Jiu-jitsu. Go out there with Tim, attack him, and report here your findings, after your reconstructive surgery, physical therapy and cognitive rehabilitation have been completed.
kshurika wrote:yusuf wrote:
As I stated above, it is always the case on RSF that in any thread involving Tim Cartmell, the same group of badass Brits - and others - comes in to question whether or not Tim has the stuff. Yusuf even got his little feelings hurt so badly he's going home to his stuffed animals and won't buy Tim's DVD. (Cheer up yusuf, I'm sending you some "Thomas and Friends" videos to take its place.) Yusuf, Shooter, RobP2 - I don't pretend to speak for Jake, Shane and strawdog, but we're very concerned that you might not like us. On the other hand, we find it amusing that such fans of reality street fighting question Tim's street cred without ever having even spent five minutes in a room with the man.
How old are you? Seriously, how old are you? If I were Tim I wouldn't want you promoting me in this way
kshurika wrote:
I'm 13, and if you don't stop saying mean things about me, I'm gonna tell my Dad.
You sound a little bent out of shape there, Rob. Have you tried yoga? I know a good teacher.
Nobody has questioned Tim's 'Street cred' anywhere in this thread. Show us a single remark made any one of us. Just one? You and the other cartmellites are the only ones making disparaging remarks about others...really, it's true...read the thread again. I did and it really does speak volumes. WowOn the other hand, we find it amusing that such fans of reality street fighting question Tim's street cred without ever having even spent five minutes in a room with the man
It's too predictable and really kinda sad. People trying have a civil discussion about real, workable ideas and you're making logical leaps that offer nothing of value whatsoever. A tennis court or soccer field are good places to start exploring any material you want to train for 'self defense'.You think his vids should be shot on cracked, piss-stained concrete with a ghetto hip-hop soundtrack?
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