The difference between xing yi and Xin Yi Liu He Quan?

[hamid]

It would be easier if you showed the visible and then others may believe that the invisible exists? any way good luck in your training

Yes, you can leave the force with six harmonies without seeing it!

The three levels of xin yi
1) The visible power
2) The hidden power.
3) Transform, combine the two

[Patrick]

-argh-

[Wanderingdragon]

It would be easier if you showed the visible and then others may believe that the invisible exists? any way good luck in your training

Yes, you can leave the force with six harmonies without seeing it!

The three levels of xin yi
1) The visible power
2) The hidden power.
3) Transform, combine the two

Hamid!

If we could see your LIU HE


Your Xin Yi

would look more like


Quan

[hamid]

I have had exchanges with a practitioner xin yi Shanghai, my practice is very different!

[hamid]

It would be easier if you showed the visible and then others may believe that the invisible exists? any way good luck in your training

Yes, you can leave the force with six harmonies without seeing it!

The three levels of xin yi
1) The visible power
2) The hidden power.
3) Transform, combine the two

Hamid!

If we could see your LIU HE


Your Xin Yi

would look more like


Quan

can be externalized and internalized the six harmonies but the feel on impact, penetrating, whips, ecplosif...
It must feel to understand!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b-eZMoPl4dQ

[Daniel]

[edit - I should add though that when doing any 'Fa Li' you do need to have the dantian full, solid, and pressed down, so that when you tuck with force the dantian is not jostling the Liver too much, if it gets constantly disturbed you may likely develop a 'shen disorder' where the 'hun' is being stirred up during the daytime rather than just during one's sleep. This is called 'fajin sickness' and there's a needle protocol to fix it, problem is you have to find someone with that sort of knowledge to properly identify and treat it.]

DGlenn, if you know it and want to share it by PM, I´d be very interested. Also, re Lazyboxer´s comment on the other thread, I think there is a lot most practitioners misunderstand about the IMA practices and what age and type of body they originally demanded to work as they used to.

Re the points, my teacher in Beijing has a simple point-pair that opens up the microcosmic orbit and cleans out qiqong piancha and zouhuo rumo (energy-injury) issues locked there from bad practices.


D.

Sarcasm. Oh yeah, like that´ll work.

[hamid]

A hollow chest is a good position of the pelvis sitting promotes relaxation of the dantien inpact.


http://hamid160.skyrock.com/

[WongYing]

Hollow - empty and sung are different....for most hollow is concave...this I do not think is correct practice at all

[nianfong]

It would be easier if you showed the visible and then others may believe that the invisible exists? any way good luck in your training

Yes, you can leave the force with six harmonies without seeing it!

The three levels of xin yi
1) The visible power
2) The hidden power.
3) Transform, combine the two

No you cannot Hamid. 3 of the harmonies are purely external and always clearly evident from the outside. Do you know what the 6 harmonies are?

[hamid]

It would be easier if you showed the visible and then others may believe that the invisible exists? any way good luck in your training

Yes, you can leave the force with six harmonies without seeing it!

The three levels of xin yi
1) The visible power
2) The hidden power.
3) Transform, combine the two

No you cannot Hamid. 3 of the harmonies are purely external and always clearly evident from the outside. Do you know what the 6 harmonies are?

Yes!

The three internal harmonies
1) harmony between the heart and mind
2 harmony between thought and respiration (vital breath)
3) harmony between breathing and qi (the force)

The three external harmonies
4) harmony between the shoulders and hips
5) Harmony between the elbows and knees
6) harmony between the hands and feet


google translation of my master document xin yi
A theory of essential points of each body part of xin yi liu he quan
1) The head seeks to the top (the sky) with force
2) The shoulders continue down the rebound energy of the body
3) the energy of the elbows hang
4) Both hands are trying as they extend
5) the energies of the hips down
6) both knees strive against each other
7) the front foot pulls Earth Energy
8) the back foot force arises
9) The eyes look horizontally

http://hamid160.skyrock.com/

[hamid]

The paper of my master xin yi.

[Josealb]

I told ya so.

[nianfong]

The three internal harmonies
1) harmony between the heart and mind
2 harmony between thought and respiration (vital breath)
3) harmony between breathing and qi (the force)

The three external harmonies
4) harmony between the shoulders and hips
5) Harmony between the elbows and knees
6) harmony between the hands and feet

No, it seems you do not.

1) 心與意合 heart and intention/meaning are one.
2) 意與氣合 intention/meaning and qi (breath/energy) are one
3) 氣與力合 qi (breath/energy) and force are one

you state the external harmonies correctly.

However, you do not express them in your form. and they are always evident.

-Fong

[I-mon]

If you just try to imitate the movement of XHLH, you will recognize immediately the difference in breathing machanics from that of Squat jumps.

Once more, just to be polite, before I join Jose and start banging my head against a wall.

I realize that there are many differences between good xinyiliuhe and a completely random video of someone doing a squat jump. I was trying to draw attention to some basic similarities. Of course I agree that IMA are extra-super-very-special and I apologise sincerely for my statement which seems to have been misread as though I was implying that XYLH is nothing but squat-jumps and we should all just do squat-jumps because they're the best. I hope that no one ever does squat-jumps or even thinks about squat-jumps ever again, unless they learn them from a genuine Chinese Master, from China, in Chinese, in which case they will be completely different and superior in every way to a normal squat-jump which can only be done in a disconnected fashion with no intent.

Now back to the thread: Hamid's shit is fake! I think we're really getting somewhere on this one.