Chris Fleming wrote:"That which is infinite cannot be cannot be grasped by that which is finite."
You know, I'd probably agree with you more completely if I was born in Old Testament times, if I was one of the children of Israel wandering in the wilderness following this pillar of smoke by day and pillar of fire by night, wondering why the hell we were brought out of Egypt in the first place, getting scared shitless when some of my buddies tried to take things over and got swallowed up by the earth by the hundreds, not knowing what the fuck is going on when this Rock with water pouring out of it keeps showing up no matter how far we travel and nobody carrying it, and getting even more scared shitless and clueless when our el presidente gives us these rules straight from God and then it seems like we are all about to be destroyed by God when we say "all you say we will do".
See I've never thought of it quite like that before, that it seems that most people are in an Old Testament thinking when it comes to God, that God must be forever abstract (even though He really wasn't utterly abstract in OT times) and unknowable. It seems like a "new age" thought too--the thought that we are somehow right and knowing and "on the right track" when we say "oh God is unknowable". It's too much of a crutch, too much of a laziness, and potentially a devilish teaching in and of itself. Yes certainly, God being infinite will never be fully grasped, yet this teaching implies a kind of "meh, so don't bother, just repeat this teaching as if THAT is some kind of HIGHER insight in and of itself".
I see where you are coming from and how it could be easy to misinterpret what I was saying. I wasn't trying to say that the source is unknowable, but our attempts to quantify it into some other form of expression (symbols for example). In other words, that things like medallions, talisman, statues, are only given power if we give it to them. A person's connection with the divine is far more powerful than anything second hand like that. It's apparent to me that knowing that which is eternal is possible. I'd even go so far as to say it's vital.
When you have God Himself, the Creator of the entire universe, the awesome Initiator of time itself who is by definition outside of time, the vast unsearchable source of ALL LIFE becoming the Logos, the Word!--the Expression!--the Essence! becoming a MAN, becoming a lowly creature, becoming the life giving Spirit to dispense Himself into and dwell within man... ... ... ... ... I'd say that definitely shows that God not only is knowable but wants and desperately desires to be known and apprehended. Like an Eve to an Adam, which is a type of the whole fricking thing, how can God have a counterpart unless that counterpart is fully constituted of Him, coming out from Him and matching Him?
If I go any more in depth in regards to the expression of words and "The Word" than I'm fairly certain we will clash in terms of faith. I'm not trying to get into that debate. It's fairly obvious that you are strong in your faith, Chris, and it's something I respect and enjoy despite our differences in specifics. Suffice it to say that I don't think desire comes into play as I view it as a misinterpretation of something deeper and more intrinsic to the nature of humanity as opposed to a characteristic that reflects through perfectly as a foil for man.
Hold tight your buns, if buns you do hold dear!!!! For time has come to wake and run and not give way to fear!!!!
