Some IMA Applications from Bas Rutten

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Re: Some IMA Applications from Bas Rutten

Postby Wanderingdragon on Sat Dec 03, 2011 11:36 am

Robin. You call him Wang as if you know him personally, I think it's mostly because you really know nothing, when you do your research as I doubt you will do the work, you will know the pools of sweat that " Wang " has given testament to, in the pursuit of internal skill.
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Re: Some IMA Applications from Bas Rutten

Postby Tesshu on Sat Dec 03, 2011 11:41 am

You find in the Yang ChengFu book on TCC that the body should be covered in a thin layer of sweat during practice, in every weather. Er, what were you all talking about?
Ah, it was the Bas Rutten video and pictures.
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Re: Some IMA Applications from Bas Rutten

Postby Robinhood on Sat Dec 03, 2011 11:56 am

Wanderingdragon wrote:Robin. You call him Wang as if you know him personally, I think it's mostly because you really know nothing, when you do your research as I doubt you will do the work, you will know the pools of sweat that " Wang " has given testament to, in the pursuit of internal skill.


You know who I mean right ?, I don't remember his first name, maybe he sweated trying to find it ? I did say you will sweat in the first stages.

Yang Chen Fu, was a big boy, and I think he probably always had some sweat going.
I would go along with the first page of his book, where he says it is all right here !
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Re: Some IMA Applications from Bas Rutten

Postby Wanderingdragon on Sat Dec 03, 2011 12:04 pm

Robin, you really should stop ;) if you can't even tell the story properly, it's obvious you've got lots of work to do.
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Re: Some IMA Applications from Bas Rutten

Postby XinKuzi on Sat Dec 03, 2011 12:08 pm

This is just getting ridiculous, Robinhood.

I can feel it... it's getting closer now...

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Re: Some IMA Applications from Bas Rutten

Postby GrahamB on Sat Dec 03, 2011 12:13 pm

XinKuzi wrote:This is just getting ridiculous, Robinhood.

I can feel it... it's getting closer now...

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I think Robin needs to tuck his tail bone more and work on suspending the head. -shrug-
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Re: Some IMA Applications from Bas Rutten

Postby Robinhood on Sat Dec 03, 2011 12:20 pm

XinKuzi wrote:This is just getting ridiculous, Robinhood.

I can feel it... it's getting closer now...

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XinKuzi did not have to pose for us, are you going tricker treating ?
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Re: Some IMA Applications from Bas Rutten

Postby Robinhood on Sat Dec 03, 2011 12:22 pm

Wanderingdragon wrote:Robin, you really should stop ;) if you can't even tell the story properly, it's obvious you've got lots of work to do.


What story is that ?
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Re: Some IMA Applications from Bas Rutten

Postby Daniel on Sat Dec 03, 2011 12:25 pm

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Sarcasm. Oh yeah, like that´ll work.
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Re: Some IMA Applications from Bas Rutten

Postby gzregorz on Sat Dec 03, 2011 3:36 pm

Wang style?

You mean Wang Hao Da?

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Re: Some IMA Applications from Bas Rutten

Postby Mello on Sat Dec 03, 2011 6:30 pm

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Re: Some IMA Applications from Bas Rutten

Postby Robinhood on Sat Dec 03, 2011 7:15 pm

johnwang wrote:
Robinhood wrote:But that sweating should go away as your chi flows better.

I think you will need to see a doctor.
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What It Means When You Do Not Sweat

If you’re not sweating during your workouts, it may be due to a variety of factors. At the most extreme, those who do not sweat, even in intense temperatures, may be suffering from a condition called anhidrosis. This condition is problematic because it can lead to overheating, dizziness, a rash and even fainting. If you are working out intensely and are still not sweating at all, you might want to consult a physician to determine the cause.


John, you need to read all the posts and stop taking lines out of context.

Yes people should sweat when doing hard exercise, that is not what we are talking about.

I was referring to applying internal techniques or counter measures to opponents while working out and normal standing postures.
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Re: Some IMA Applications from Bas Rutten

Postby Robinhood on Sat Dec 03, 2011 7:22 pm

gzregorz wrote:Wang style?

You mean Wang Hao Da?



No, Wang Xiangzhai


http://taijijourney.blogspot.com/2005/0 ... gzhai.html
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Re: Some IMA Applications from Bas Rutten

Postby Simon on Sat Dec 03, 2011 7:50 pm

Mello wrote:
Daniel wrote: @@@


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x3 Morning Coffee, Toast and the Bas Rutten thread - heaven.
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Re: Some IMA Applications from Bas Rutten

Postby kreese on Sat Dec 03, 2011 11:35 pm

Me too.

I kept warm in my first Taipei winter on a rooftop apartment (wind!) by doing sets of the taiji form...never fails to warm me up...but something Serge Augier wrote to me once rang true in the past as well: if you don't do external as well, the energy might dissipate, the internal and external support each other in obvious and not so obvious ways.

nianfong wrote:I sweat when my qi starts flowing.
Have you read the taichi classics? The first line of zhang san feng's treatise:
一舉動周身俱要輕靈, 尤須貫串,氣宜鼓盪,神門宜斂
when you first move your body must be light, must move like strands of pearls, your qi must be boiling, your shen must be directed inward.

Your qi must be boiling. This usually makes you sweat.

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