Bhassler wrote:You're changing domains mid-argument. The waiter cannot afford the ambiance, and that is the service that they are providing, not the food. The facilitate for other people the experience of being catered to, of privilege, or whatever it is that fancy restaurants are selling, and they themselves cannot afford that. The specific example notwithstanding, your original implication that poverty and privilege are the result of socialism falls completely flat as soon as you recognize that those things exist under all governments and all economic models.
David Boxen wrote:Funny, everywhere I went in Cuba people were trying to sell me cigars...if they have them on hand, why can't they afford to smoke them?
Apologies for not being random enough for this thread.
klonk wrote:All I really said is Cubans can't afford Cuban cigars. Cuba, wind blessed and beautiful, has thugs in charge. Never mind cigars, the people are short sometimes on beans, rice and rum, things anyone would agree are essential.
klonk wrote:Cubans can't afford Cuban cigars. http://bit.ly/JHy7oF There is a lesson in that about the nature and consequences of socialism.
Bhassler wrote:klonk wrote:All I really said is Cubans can't afford Cuban cigars. Cuba, wind blessed and beautiful, has thugs in charge. Never mind cigars, the people are short sometimes on beans, rice and rum, things anyone would agree are essential.
No, what you said was:klonk wrote:Cubans can't afford Cuban cigars. http://bit.ly/JHy7oF There is a lesson in that about the nature and consequences of socialism.
Thugs being in charge in Cuba has very little to do with Socialism as a political and economic model. I don't advocate socialism, nor do I particularly care about other people's politics, but I do like accuracy.
klonk wrote:And the officials' self-justifications are...?
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