Is this fake too, then?
Dude, you post that vid then ask if he’s fake!!! Frankly, there are not enough exclamation marks in the world to make my feelings here clear.
Ok, being as polite as possible. Yes, yes, if you are telling me that the he is making the people in that clip do what they are doing, with no cooperation from them, explicit or not, yes he is fake. People just don’t more like that to the stimulus shown. If anything he’s a less convincing fake (inept even) than his teacher, his pushing hands isn't even "good" where I could at least accept that apart from the totally exaggerated reaction of the stooges Wang Chieh had good pushing hands skill.
I'm amazed that in the year 2012 we are still having this discussion. Seriously, it’s like its 1991 all over again and IMA people had just discovered the internet, stumbling blinking like a new born kitten into a world where the harsh light of unlimited exposure and reasoned argument shows that this crap is, well, crap.
Andy_S wrote: When I met him a decade or so back, Docherty would do PH with anyone who walked in the door - it was part of the class.
To me, there is no question in my mind that both the Taiji guys are masters,
Dan Docherty for example (who is not my teacher, despite what has been quoted here several times) is a "master" (not a term he applies to himself I understand) That I pushed hands with when I first started training as a bright eyed aggressive 16 year old. I lost a lot; I was totally dominated and controlled. Yes I went flying (forwards and backwards) several times but it didn’t look anything like any of the video clips posted, every reaction I gave was because of and proportionate to an input (his or mine). I didn’t fully extend my legs just because he has two fingers on my wrist. I didn't throw my legs out behind me despite my upper body barely moving.