by Chris McKinley on Thu May 03, 2012 6:57 pm
cerebus,
RE: Doc....As he has many dozens of times over the last year in stalking me from thread to thread, he is asking for evidence for a claim which I did not make. This is the way he operates. He puts words in my mouth, then tries to hold me to account for them. That is exactly what has happened here yet again. I have not only made no claim of having "perfect form", I never even made reference to form in any way whatsoever. If you want to know what this crap is about, you'd have to read it in context. Some of the posts, however, have been removed by Tom and put into BTDT, so unless you knew that, you may think Doc is just asking this question for the first time about something I actually claimed. It's about information I shared in the Absolutely essential knowledge thread. This is some of the very best information I have to share, and I provided it openly and in detail. I typed it hastily and I came across as arrogant in the way I initially presented it, which Doc rightly called out, and for which I have already apologized.
Beyond that, I also made a claim, which I will still stand by, that in terms of functional fighting ability, the method I shared will "dramatically outperform the typical results found in all modern examples of traditional IMA". Typical results in functional fighting ability in modern IMA aren't exactly stellar to begin with, but I will stand by the claim without reservation. Here is the exact quote of what I said in that thread:
"I have made an extraordinary claim of superlative results with my method, no doubt about it. And not just once or twice, but consistently, over many years of application of it. I have also conveniently put it out there for anyone who cares to try it to ignore my claims and go and try it for themselves. Now, it's not 100% of the method, and what I've posted certainly doesn't include having me there in person to offer additional skills and guidance that I have in my repertoire, to be certain, but I will claim this.....anyone who accurately, systematically and consistently applies just what I have written in this thread plus the corollary information for it that I provided in Shooter's What Are You Gonna Do About It? thread will dramatically outperform the typical results found in all modern examples of traditional IMA, regardless of style, in the production of functional fighting ability with their art. It's out there now. Cut out the middle man and test it for yourselves. I wouldn't do that if I were interested exclusively in cashing in on my hard-earned expertise, or if I were only interested in maintaining a "special" status that allows me to brag without sharing. Nothing would make me happier than for people to take the work I've set down and to make my results "un-special" by duplicating or even surpassing them."
Conveniently, I have also taken myself out of the equation so that no one has to take my word for it. You don't have to come see me or pay my seminar fee to get the information. I've given it away for free to the readers of Rum Soaked Fist because I want to contribute. Nothing of my claim either requires nor would even be satisfied by a picture or a video even if I wanted to provide one. I'll also happily answer questions about the method in as much detail as I can. If somebody finds it lacking, fair enough, but at least I put it out there. If somebody actually applies it accurately, systematically and consistently over time and doesn't outperform the more typical IMA results in terms of functional fighting ability (I said nothing about form), then so be it. I honestly don't believe that will be the case, but again....at least I have put it out there. That's certainly far more than Doc could claim by a wide margin.
And you won't find me initiating either personal insults or lies, and any criticism I put forth I will happily substantiate without needing to be asked to do so. I don't mind hashing something out, even if it starts out heated, and I've already made that clear with PatrickH who started this thread, but its continued existence is unfortunate and represents poor moderation. No one should have to put up with having a thread whose sole purpose is to make personal targeted insults, no matter what anyone might think of their particular opinions on any issue.
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