the rum soaked fist: internal martial arts forum

I don't get it. I joined EF back in May of 2008 and stuff went down and this place was made? I fell off the internet for awhile and now that I am back I was wondering whats the difference between EF and RSF? Which one has more internal martial artists interested in reality checking their IMA? It seems this one does and EF is more enlightenment oriented?

Please don't ban me for asking. Just delete this thread and forget I asked.

Taijibum wrote:It seems this one does and EF is more enlightenment oriented?

This leaves me speechless for several reasons.

Kevin_Wallbridge wrote:

Taijibum wrote:It seems this one does and EF is more enlightenment oriented?

This leaves me speechless for several reasons.

Help me out, bro. I just gave each site a cursory read. I found more interesting posts here, so I am asking here. Whats the difference?

you know how sometimes members of a family love each other but don't quite get along?

"Enlightenment"? Not from that site. The "founder" of that site basically stole the name out from under the REAL founder Dave DeVere. DeVere founded EF as his own website for his art, the forum was just a part of it, then Brian (whatever his last name was) copyrighted the name and ran with it. Most of the older, original EF members came to the RSF site when it was created, so RSF is the original EF forum but with a different name.

What Cerebus said

You're hardly likely to be banned for asking - but that seems to be a pretty accurate short version (though I'm sure they'd say otherwise)

I'd insert that 'ran with it' could be substituted for 'wanted to alter the forum, introduce a paid "instruction online" program and other moneymaking aspects of the forum' - most wanted the old format, nothing to change (like you'll notice on RSF) in terms of moderation and structure.

Basically, like 99% of what made the old EF great, in other words, the people in it, are here. EF kept the name..but whats in a name?

you know how sometimes members of a family love each other but don't quite get along?

Except there is no love or family between us and the yak.

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It was meant as a joke.

At one point he tried to help the forum by giving us a space to run it from and things got out out hand as to what his role was.

I got nothing against the guy. At one time we were all cool with him.

What's done is done.

Enlightenment"? Not from that site. The "founder" of that site basically stole the name out from under the REAL founder Dave DeVere. DeVere founded EF as his own website for his art, the forum was just a part of it, then Brian (whatever his last name was) copyrighted the name and ran with it. Most of the older, original EF members came to the RSF site when it was created, so RSF is the original EF forum but with a different name.

just a fyi
you can beat a copyright by showing proof the site was up for a while prior to someone else copyrighting your intellectual property.

Unfortunately the matter is moot at this point. DeVere is dying and RSF has been running for awhile now. Makes me sick to even think of DeVere being gone soon, but Dio traveled to Phoenix with hope of using her acupuncture skills to help him, and her report wasn't very happy... at all. She's done a tremendous amount, and has tried to do even more, but what's possible has already been done. To hell with the yak and his fake, hijacked name bullshit site. May he burn in hell. Long live the name of Dave DeVere and the true SPIRIT of his creation, here on RSF!!!

Beegs, stfu. Seriously.

Beegs, there was an absolute lack of will to do so. Maybe there will be now.

Beegs, stfu. Seriously.

seerious?

wats that about? me just saying a copyright is not an excuse for being immoral and can be beaten is nothing but trying to share some helpful info. Many people belive a copyright is gold, i was pointing out it can be beaten,

The original question is legitimate, but the timing for the thread and this discussion is really bad. I don't think the people with things to say on the topic have the mood right now.

For the respect for the founder of the original forum and his many friends here, I suggest that this thread should be locked for at least a month or two.