in my hand that I held up was gun . did it stop his force, or did he stop it?
He stopped himself. Call the gun the power of fear or suggestion. If he'd wanted, even the bullet may not have stopped him.
in my hand that I held up was gun . did it stop his force, or did he stop it?
RobP2 wrote:windwalker wrote:t
I have long since respected much of their work (Systema), even though from what little I've heard about it, it seems to be based on a different idea.
people talk of being warriors, fighters, ect....but when presented with a military unit that uses some of what seem to be
from my POV the same ideas its not held to the same standards as some of the work shown by the Chinese masters, why is that?
Because in Systema it isn't "empty force"
No contact work is an aspect of training - but the top guys say it is something you can rely on maybe 50% of the time. And who wants to go into battle with a gun firing 50% blanks?
RobP2 wrote:Because it is an aspect of inter-personal relationships that can be used in some situations and is an adjunct to overall combat / conflict skills. Some others seem to present is as a combat skill in and of itself - hence the OP clip
an aspect of inter-personal relationships
windwalker wrote:my point in all of this is that there seems to be a kind of double standerd regarding events like these
They all seem to have one thing in common -- they are willing and cooperative, or at least non-confrontational, participants in the activities at hand. When that condition stops being met, we get results like those shown toward the end of the OP clip, or in these well-known debunking/reality-testing clips:
that they have somehow learned to transcend physics
Dmitri wrote:windwalker wrote:my point in all of this is that there seems to be a kind of double standerd regarding events like these
I don't see a double-standard here; to me personally, there is no difference whatsoever, other than the color and style of clothing and presence of weapons.
but why does EVERYONE with verifiable combat experience in combat sports, ie people able to deal with trained powerful opponents with the best punches, kicks, lock and throws etc. out there, why do they ALL call this type of sh1t you present fake? Is the world all crazy except you? Find me one single fighter with verifiable experience (not hear-say) that endorses what is proposed on those videos?
klonk wrote:
Tom wrote:I wonder what would happen if two of them encountered each other, i.e., what their reactions would be in an exchange of skill demonstration. Behind closed doors if egos demand it (although they make their student demonstrations very public).
Tom wrote:I did check out the bios of the LKJ teachers on that clip. That's why I asked the question . . . I wonder what would happen if two of them encountered each other, i.e., what their reactions would be in an exchange of skill demonstration. Behind closed doors if egos demand it (although they make their student demonstrations very public).
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