The Russians are coming.

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Re: The Russians are coming.

Postby oragami_itto on Mon Feb 05, 2018 1:24 pm

Steve James wrote:Well, it'll be interesting to hear Trump's comments on this, if any. Some of his recent orders will probably get more attention, though.


Nobody is saying a word about his refusal to enforce sanctions.
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Re: The Russians are coming.

Postby grzegorz on Tue Feb 06, 2018 8:39 am

I have heard that It is possible for congress push the sanctions through without the pres's sig.

3 out of 4 Republicans believe that the FBI is targeting the pres yet I imagine that 3 out of 4 know nothing about Trump not signing off on the sanctions.
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Re: The Russians are coming.

Postby Steve James on Tue Feb 06, 2018 9:43 am

3 out of 4 Republicans believe that the FBI is targeting the pres


They'll say that whether they believe it or not. However, they're defending themselves because they won't admit the hypocrisy of saying they support "law enforcement." Maybe the FBI is targeting the president, but not because he's president. They, as did he, had to swear (to them preferably on a Bible) to uphold the Constitution of the United States. That document represents "the People", not the party in power or the president. In fact, the entire system of checks and balances were created to prevent any segment of government from abusing its power.

All that good stuff has been thrown out by the people who demand that people stand for the national anthem. Meanwhile, today, if someone doesn't stand and applaud when the president speaks/smiles, he or she's called a traitor --even if she's a vet who's legs were blown off in Iraq.

The thing about the investigation is that, by focusing on defending Trump, nobody's saying that the real goal is to find out how much the Russians tried to influence the Trump campaign or the Clinton campaign or the election in general. Suppose you were accused of conspiring with someone to commit a crime that had been committed. Guilty or innocent, you'd say you didn't do it. But, if innocent, you would want the guilty party to caught.

And, the f-ing most interesting thing about the Russia (not Trump) investigation is that Trump is the first president to invite the heads of Russian intelligence agencies to the White House. Anyhow, ok, no need to hate Russia. But, um, what exactly is in this for the U.S.? I am jaded enough to think that the delay is just to get connections cleaned up so that profits can be secured. Otoh, it's more likely just political payback. A heartfelt thank you.
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Re: The Russians are coming.

Postby Steve James on Fri Feb 09, 2018 3:46 pm

Yeah, Wolf Blitzer just took the words out of my mouth. If an adversary government wanted to screw up another country's political, judicial, and intelligence agencies --forget about moral fabric-- how would you know that you were successful? Would the retirings, firings, and recusals of the major officials in those areas be satisfactory evidence? Wouldn't it even be better if the other country's leaders dismissed the attempts or deliberately obstruct investigation?

Yep. I'd say выигрыш!
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