newsflash: cartmell is not internal :P

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Re: newsflash: cartmell is not internal :P

Postby nianfong on Tue May 20, 2008 1:34 pm

so... isn't BBJ a Big Busty Jew or something like that?
so then mr. cartnell is the master of a Bug Busty jew. SET MY PEOPLE FREE PHARAOH!!!

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Re: newsflash: cartmell is not internal :P

Postby JuanM on Tue May 20, 2008 1:37 pm

BJJ can be internal if done in the nude =P
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Re: newsflash: cartmell is not internal :P

Postby cdobe on Tue May 20, 2008 2:39 pm

Felipe Bidó wrote:
xingyijuan wrote:
Felipe Bidó wrote:Dude, he's talking about Tim Cartnell, a different guy :p


At least he didn't call him Felippe! ;D


That's because Mr. Cartnell is not of spanish ancestry


Nope, he is of Chinese ancestry. Didn't you know how close he lives to Chinatown ? -nunchaku-
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Re: newsflash: cartmell is not internal :P

Postby Chris Fleming on Tue May 20, 2008 5:26 pm

Pow pow pow what a shit head.
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Re: newsflash: cartmell is not internal :P

Postby nianfong on Tue May 20, 2008 8:59 pm

so... tell me felipe....

does arriola mean areola in portueguese/spanish, or does it just mean stupid tit?
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Re: newsflash: cartmell is not internal :P

Postby rakushun on Tue May 20, 2008 9:08 pm

What's this obsession with the label internal?
There is no doubt that what Tim Cartmell does is highly skilled and he can kick major ass.
Tim probably could care less how you categorizes his material, what he does works and is effective.
Joseph T. Oliva Arriola has his own definition of what internal is and he's entitled to his opinions, I did not read any criticism in his post, just a definition debate. I have found his posts over at formosaneijia to be informative.
Conclusion: Tim gets major respect and deservingly so, and this is just another iteration of the whole what is internal debate.
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Re: newsflash: cartmell is not internal :P

Postby Felipe Bidó on Tue May 20, 2008 9:22 pm

Rakushun:

In my case (and others, I guess), the issue is not that Arriola doesn't think Tim is 'Internal' according to his definition of the term. The funny part is when he calls Tim a 'BJJ guy and not much else' (like that's a bad thing ;D) whose form is "not Taiji or whatever" and that has "Maybe learned the form but nothing else"... when it is clear that Tim Cartmell has excelled at the internal arts he has trained in, and his body deeply expresses the principles found in those arts.

For God's sakes, look at Tim sparring!...his tingjing seems like he's given a script detailing all the opponent's moves before the fight :D
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Re: newsflash: cartmell is not internal :P

Postby Craig on Tue May 20, 2008 9:27 pm

I'd like to add something to this thread again:


POWPOWPOWPOWPOWPOWPAPOWPOWAPOW!
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Re: newsflash: cartmell is not internal :P

Postby Felipe Bidó on Tue May 20, 2008 9:29 pm

Fong, the name 'Arriola' comes from an ancient spanish dialect and referred to device used by blacksmiths...

...and in some towns of South America it means "Horny". I'M NOT MAKING THIS UP. I'm serious.

(How do I put the 'nuke' smiley here?)
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Re: newsflash: cartmell is not internal :P

Postby Ian on Tue May 20, 2008 9:41 pm

pahpow. powpowpowpowpow.

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Re: newsflash: cartmell is not internal :P

Postby Craig on Tue May 20, 2008 10:50 pm

Felipe Bidó wrote:Fong, the name 'Arriola' comes from an ancient spanish dialect and referred to device used by blacksmiths...

...and in some towns of South America it means "Horny". I'M NOT MAKING THIS UP. I'm serious.

(How do I put the 'nuke' smiley here?)

-nuke-

just type - n u k e - without the spaces
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Re: newsflash: cartmell is not internal :P

Postby xingyijuan on Wed May 21, 2008 6:04 am

It's not that Arriola has his own definition of "internal", he has his own definition of "martial arts" and he should be neutered for it!
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Re: newsflash: cartmell is not internal :P

Postby mixjourneyman on Wed May 21, 2008 6:15 am

xingyijuan wrote:It's not that Arriola has his own definition of "internal", he has his own definition of "martial arts" and he should be neutered for it!


I think he already was and that is the reason for his peculiar definition of all things martial. ;D
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Re: newsflash: cartmell is not internal :P

Postby xingyijuan on Wed May 21, 2008 9:41 am

mixjourneyman wrote:
xingyijuan wrote:It's not that Arriola has his own definition of "internal", he has his own definition of "martial arts" and he should be neutered for it!


I think he already was and that is the reason for his peculiar definition of all things martial. ;D


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Re: newsflash: cartmell is not internal :P

Postby nianfong on Wed May 21, 2008 11:44 am

Felipe Bidó wrote:Fong, the name 'Arriola' comes from an ancient spanish dialect and referred to device used by blacksmiths...

...and in some towns of South America it means "Horny". I'M NOT MAKING THIS UP. I'm serious.

(How do I put the 'nuke' smiley here?)


without the parentheses, type:
(-nuke-) -nuke-

you can also click the "view more smilies" button and click on the nuke smiley
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