D_Glenn wrote:Dan, the piece of the puzzle that you are missing is that in He Jinbao's Baguazhang, it's the Bolang Jin movement that jolts the wave of flesh upward (and downward), not the powerful movement of the kua. The Kua is part of the Zhuangji li (biomechanical hit), bolang jin is providing the secondary wave that you time to coincide with the initial hit. It can be part of the initial hit (in which case it would be considered a deng or beng li (biomechanic)), or it can be following behind as a backup (which gives one more options to change), or it can be going from one leg into the other, which is what you need to feel from Jinbao because it's unfathomable. Every time you see Jinbao (if he likes you), you get to feel something else that you can't fathom- how a human being can develop the capacity to create so much force, as subtleties of that force, and he's only using around 20% of his full capacity so that you don't get seriously hurt.
Bolang Jin is not bowing the back. Using the back as a bow is common in CMAs. Bolang Jin is different.
Well have to nicely disagree.
1. That kind of power is a twice told tale. The same is said of me and a bunch of other guys. And it comes from whole body power
2. You still don't catch my drift. That's why you keep defending/explaining, him.
I don't think it's him
3. The what and how, as you describe it makes no sense, and you are unable to explain it.
Why? Because you don't get the how and why yourself. By your own admission, you don't get it. I'm just agreeing with you. Its not what you think it is.
4. I don't have to feel him
to know when a mechanical model (yours, not his) makes no sense.