Re: Kua Movement
Posted: Wed Mar 23, 2016 2:53 pm
Bodywork wrote:You have to ask yourself a few questions:
Mechanically what would folding do to produce either stability, or power?
What would rotation do to enhance stability and power.
You yourself just noted that turning of the hip drags the knee. I would add that you can stretch and loosen and solve that problem, but without loosening the joints and re- training the legs/ pelvic floor/ and virtually all of the surrounding musculature, you would still just end up swimming your hips sideways like the vast majority of martial artists.
Next is the issue of creating a Dantien
Training it to use the power being offered by the legs and then directing it.... where? How?
How, does it come up when it used to spin..out?
What muscles are doing what to change?
What does "up" involve that isn't "out" anymore?
Powering through the hips.
Is vastly different than powering from the hips.
Powering through the hips is shown all over the place in high level guys (again, to stay on topic it is the OP video 0.20 and on)
Powering from the hips? Watch the rest of the videos from this thread and a host of other guys claiming that they don't... until you watch them move.
Devlin. You really don't want to bring power from one leg to the other through the lower basin. It is terribly inefficient. Joining the dantien to them and joining the upper body to the lower body through a conditioned connection between the dantien(s) is the way to go.
To say it another way:
You can generate all the power your can muster from your legs....
Where is it going?
How did it get there?
For most TMAers I've met..
A percentage good out their knees.
A percentage out their hips
A percentage out their shoulders
And another dumping from one side to the other.
The very idea of whole body connection and rotations in the frame to make yin/yang is like talking a different language. It takes ten seconds to put hands on people who do it and you can feel the difference. The problwm isn't that. The problem is being willing to eat bitter and re-tool your body to do it.
Thanks for those ideas I will bear them in mind, even though its all way over my head im not going to debate it as I'm not an expert on body biomechanics in the same way you are. But I will say I agree with you on the connection between the lower and upper body to connect up the legs. I think it's the belt meridian you are talking about that achieves this? If so, this is the part that tends to get a lot of slack and causes those swinging hips, side to side motions imo.
But you've said it before and I agree with you that this stuff is difficult to process in words. Real live demonstration is ideal and I've always wanted to get into grappling but haven't done so. But if you're in the UK anytime soon and you're in the mood to, give me a PM to do some long hours of training along with a discussion of the mechanics behind it. I really want to be sure I am not wasting my time and am doing the most efficient body-method training.