everything wrote:Everyone has qi, so n/um, kundalini, whatever name may exist, makes sense.
Personally I'm not so interested in "kundalini awakening", yoga, spiritual teachings, trance, Taoism, Carlos Castaneda, LSD, psilocybin, etc., except for from a vague intellectual distance, or as sort of a recreational entertainment like the test no topic thread. I can see why other people might be interested in these topics.
For me, and I'd argue for everyone here and everywhere, health must come first (otherwise "spiritual" or "martial" or "material" doesn't exist/matter) and a lot of the above (based on many tales not less crazy than yours, void) seems rather unhealthy to me.
Connecting that viewpoint to all the cultural topics, it seems like "sinking to dantian", micro and macrocosmic orbit, meridian theory, acupuncture are specific to TCM and Taoist internal energy work, and by extension, some tiny subset of Chinese IMA work (no one really pays any attention to Taiji classics and "sink qi to dantian" instructions). For these reasons, I'm more interested in "Taoist" arts and Taoist IMA.
Carlos Castaneda was a fake patriarchy sex slave cult and he plagiarized from a German who himself plagiarized.
You asked about anger - I forgot to mention - Master Nan, Huai-chin says how "righteous anger" is too common from meditation and so he says it's better to just not meditate in modern times since the energy is so bad right now.
So to "sink qi to dan tien" - actually that is the small universe meditation or microcosmic orbit - because first it goes up via the sympathetic nervous system and then goes back down via the vagus nerve.
You can feel this - then as a deeper right side vagus nerve to the right side of the brain - and so the white tiger of the lung returns to the heart - and so the yang combines with yin - and returns to the small intestines via the stomach.
So this is why the "real" dan tien is actually directly behind the navel while the false lower tan t'ien is below the navel - as the prostate "ocean of yin qi" area.
So yes the trance dancing was based on complementary opposites - male and female energy - just as is the secret of the T'ai Chi and also the "three gunas" of India.
So we if obsess on our personal health - again as I have pointed out - if we can heal another person but it damages our own health - would we do so? This is also what the San Bushmen did - they sucked in the sickness but then after they healed the person - they sent the sickness back to the Emptiness or what they called the cosmic Ostrich Egg.
So for example qigong master Yan Xin warned a friend of his who hung out with him - that he would end up catching the illnesses of the people that Yan Xin healed. The "ancestral cavity" is the pineal gland but the Mysterious gate is means non-local Yuan Qi reality - the N/om is non-local and impersonal energy that flows eternally. So if you can sense someone else's illness - this is sensed holographically in your own organs! So there is no longer a separation of your health and someone else's illness.
For example qigong master Chunyi Lin did a research study where he was supposed to "fake" heal people - but the problem is that when he detected or read a person's energy blockages - he could not pretend not to heal the person - because to detect their blockages he HAD to heal the person, in order to heal his own DETECTION of their blockage! Does that make sense? So the study did not work - because qigong can not have a "double blind" standard since there is no "boundary condition" for a repeatable off-the-shelf technology. There is a different definition of infinity that is nonwestern - time can not be "contained" as geometry that is a closed off spatial infinity measured by light.
Rather we are light as spirits but when we close our eyes and turn the light around to the third eye and heart - and small intestines - the three "brains" - or energy centers - this causes the unified energy to interact with its source - the relativistic mass of light that is superluminal force from the future. So in other words - to detect someone else's blockage means it is already being healed from the future by the Emptiness that allowed us to detect it in the first place.
Our brain's detection as health is actually the subjective past while the future secretly guides us - so our supposed perception of external reality is actually a projection of an internal 5th dimension that is the future as pure superluminal energy contained within the light. And so left brain dominance is the past, as time, while right brain dominance is frequency dominance that can go into the future via the pineal gland.
So things like psychedelic drugs or shrooms or DMT-based plant-roots - these are studied in quantum biology as tied to the same mechanisms. The San Bushmen did use psychedelic plant roots but only as a "taste" of the activation - considered to be FAKE N/om. So with an external electrochemical source - this will convert the neurohormones into serotonin very quickly and activate the kundalini - but it lacks the qi energy that emanates out of the pineal gland. So instead you go from the jing straight to the shen astral realm that is holographic and the plant usually just activates the subconscious visions. So a person ends up directly interacting with their subconscious - and usually just gets confused by it or has hallucinations, etc. So it is only through a specific traditional meditation training - in the Amazon the DMT-based psychedelic training also requires celibacy and so isolation from females - in the jungle - along with a special diet of strong serotonin food like fish and bananas but no salt, no sugar and no spices.
So in the end - that traditional shamanic training still relies on the similar training as to what is done in West Africa in the sacred forest groves of Senegal for example - it is like the Daoist gong with 3 months of the males isolated, doing meditation, in the sacred forest, away from the females.
And so the health - it is relative - and a healer is constantly then leaching out toxins due to modern society being totally unhealthy.
Sugar is a drug as is salt - but how can someone eat modern food with out sugar or salt? It is next to impossible. You can get sodium from vegetables and no need for refined sugar. But salt and sugar activate inflammation as the sympathetic nervous system. And so strict training for advanced level is very rare because you need celibacy but also a pure diet - and so at Shaolin even the advanced training is not found very often.
The cave meditation as fasting - this is the real advanced training - no food and no sleep for 49 days while in full lotus the whole time.
AS Wang Liping says - only full lotus yoga position can deeply open the lower back nerve blockages - to really get a deep yang qi (kundalini) activation. And so Wang Liping says it takes 6 hours of full lotus meditation a day - every day without missing a day - for one year - for a middle aged person to restore their Yuan JIng.
So even within Daoism there are different variations - to activate the Yuan Qi is considered the "first half" of the training - as the T'ai Chi that is experienced. In Buddhism this is called "Achievement of Cessation" as the first level of samadhi as a week long fast. I was told in a Burmese monastery that fasting was not real Buddhism and then my friend who ran the monastery told me to read the books he had there. So I read the books - and I discovered that contrary to his claim - the first level of samadhi was from a week of fasting. haha. Also he said that full lotus was not real buddhism - since his monk practiced Burmese position. But his monk was secretly a fake monk - a perv predator who rubbed up against me - to suck off my energy - and so I left that place in the middle of the night, in the cold rain, on my old three speed bicycle. I dumpster dived some food and then took shelter in a construction outhouse - and lit up some toilet paper to create some heat due to my cold wet condition. Then I meditated and continued on and I biked 200 miles on that old three speed - dumpster diving food and sleeping outside till I got to the Cambodian monastery. It was being "expanded" as a kind of Americanized Disney-land for the Cambodian refugees. There was one monk there - but he was more like a construction manager in monk robes. He wondered why I smelled like garlic so bad but obviously he could not say that. As I waited and he wondered what to do with me - the phone rang and it was my Burmese friend who ran the other monastery - wondering what had happened to me. somehow he had tracked me down. haha. It was not my phone - it was the Cambodian monastery phone he called. haha. Now my Burmese friend bought farm land and expanded his monastery just to the north of me but as I said - I know he had a fake monk there. I would never tell him that and also he got sucked into the whole anti-muslim genocidal crackdown which is really the Burmese trying to be like their British genocidal colonialist rulers of the past - before the Japanese has taken over as well.
So the nonwestern shamanic condition that is from the San Bushmen and spread around the world - yes Daoism is probably the best "science" that was created of this tradition. But to consider Daoism to be real - to be objectively capable in terms of anyone doing the training - is to realize that it is a universal psychophysiological potential of all humans. And in fact this potential was required by all people in the original human culture - only it did not have the fighting aspect - unless you consider the fighting in terms of a spiritual battle. The San bushmen realized that sickness originates from - as qigong master Chunyi Lin says - from yin qi blockages of the yin shen or as the SAn Bushmen say - from ghosts. Daoist Ni, Huai-ching calls it "ghost pollution" and it is very real. In fact we can argue that modern civilization is actually just a grand case of ghost pollution.
For example chunyi shared how he went to teach qigong to old people in this city south of the Twin Cities - Minnesota - and he saw this huge ghosts - big warrior males. He did not dare say anything about what he saw as he taught the qigong class to the old people - he did not want to disturb these huge ghost warriors. Afterwards he asked his friend what had happened here - and the European male said - this was the site of the largest mass hanging in US history - I think it was 38 Dakota warriors were hung there. So Chunyi said those ghosts were there as protection of what had happened and so he had to be very respectful while he taught the qigong class.
So for us - this sounds like total poppycock - why should we be afraid or feel the need to respect what ghosts think? haha. But we forget that quantum energy is based on frequency and ghosts are coherent biophoton light frequency energy and are activated by relativistic mass - that is energy from the future and the past. We experience the past as light and think it is the present but actually there is virtual photons from the future that create the present as a charge - the qi energy - the Yuan Qi or yin qi without substance - and so even the future is a type of ghost holographic dream state. We can have visions of the future that are MORE REAL than being awake. So then what is "health" but actually the Yuan Qi itself that is constantly transforming as the Void or the Emptiness - the Yang Shen or physical body is a type of ghost that has transformed from the future into yin jing - or yuan jing - as a new body - and so we experience light as the past or the future - but like a black hole - when we go into it the light gets so bright that time slows down to zero and there is a shift of time into the future as the 5th dimension - it is quantum entanglement as eternal present yet it is not "us" - it is impersonal and can not be seen at all - only logically perceived or LISTENED TO.
That is the internal listening focus secret of the T'ai Chi practice or standing active exercise. For the San Bushmen this means the hardest skill is to maintain a literal laser focus going out the eyes with the eyes open - while standing up and doing healing - and so clearing out ghost blockages - sending the light back to the Yuan Qi source of the N/om.