Baguazhang Survey - North America

[edededed]

Okay, guys - just trying to get a feeling for what styles of baguazhang are being practiced in North America, and by what ratio of people.

The feeling I get right now is that the most common styles are:
1. Gao style (in particular, the Zhang Junfeng lineage from Taiwan), via Xu Hongji, Luo Dexiu, and Liu Shuhang of Tianjin (via NATST) (not a single organization, they just all happen to do Gao style). Gao style had a jump-start, I think, because Taiwan opened up earlier than China (but Wang Shujin's style seems rather small in North America on the other hand).
2. Yin style via Xie Peiqi and He Jinbao, through a substantial number of practice groups throughout North America. Seems like their sort-of grass-roots organization thing is working well, they seem to be increasing in numbers lately.
3. Liang style predominantly via NATST (Vince Black's organization) and other related folks (Tom Bisio, etc.). Fairly quiet organization, but I think they are out there...
4. Park Boknam's baguazhang via Lu Shuitian (single organization, I think? Maybe there was another guy from Lu Shuitian).
5. John Painter's organization - also a strong organization.
6. Bruce Kumar Frantzis's baguazhang via Liu Hongjie (single organization, predominantly seminar style).

There are of course others, but they seem to be limited to one (or maximum two) teacher(s) in general.

So, what is the feeling you guys get?

[JAB]

Seems accurate. Very few doing Sun.
Jake

[neijia_boxer]

My wushu coach learned from sun Lu tang's son Sun Cunzhou when he was a kid in Shanghai.

[Dale Dugas]

I have Jiulong Baguazhang brothers teaching in:

Colorado
California
North Carolina
Texas
New Hampshire
Ohio
New York
Massachusetts: me

Also Canada has 4 people teaching Jiulong Baguazhang 3 in Toronto area and 1 in Saskatoon.

[edededed]

That's a lot! Might have to move you to #1 on the list...

[Dale Dugas]

we also have a Jiulong teacher in London as well as one in srael.

[Daniel]

Really? Who´s the Jiulong-guy in London, and for how long has he practiced with Dr. Painter? Would be grateful for info, living in the Old Country as I am.


D.

Sarcasm. Oh yeah, like that´ll work.

[mixjourneyman]

I think in about five years or a little more your going to start seeing a lot more Cheng style coming from Yang Hai's group....
But I may be bias

[edededed]

Ha ha - well, I know that there is at least one affiliated school now (you!)... Now to get Juan and the others kickin'...

[mixjourneyman]

Ha ha - well, I know that there is at least one affiliated school now (you!)... Now to get Juan and the others kickin'...

I don't count. I just treat anyone who wants to learn from me as my training partner.
He actually has good students lol.

[edededed]

Ha ha... I can identify with you in this case, really - just because I suck doesn't mean everyone does! (I cannot identify with you in terms of all the Kitty stuff, though - although I admit to brushing my teeth with a Hello Kitty toothbrush when I was little.)

[mixjourneyman]

I get better every day though. Its really surprising how fast I'm making progress these days.
I'm sure the same can be said for you

And I want a hello kitty toothbrush!

[edededed]

Well, last I saw my old one, it was not in any condition to give anyone else...

(I'm sure you will find time to see the Sanrio shops once you get over here - and maybe even the theme park, Sanrio Puroland!)

[JAB]

Neijia -
Cool. But he was asking about North America.
Cheers
Jake

[Plante]

We're kind of just in Canada on this side of the pond, but we do MaGui style.