most onboard this board ?. Please name some who have the goods
most onboard this board ?. Please name some who have the goods
Trick wrote:most onboard this board ?Wayne Hansen wrote:. Please name some who have the goods
Sean wrote:True charlatanism.
Steve James wrote:Ok, try this. Get a scale; set the units to ounces; push down with precisely 4oz of force.
Can you tell how much force/jin/power is actually being used in the video?
Do you think that Adam is using the same amount of pressure all of the time in this video? In all of his videos?
Does he always using jin and never muscular strength?
Giles wrote:Sean wrote:True charlatanism.
I don't claim to be a fan of the whole 'package' (techniques, principles, created situations/set-ups, explanations, personality etc.) presented in the videos. But I find that here (albeit within the situation he sets up) he is pointing to and demonstrating a very important concept and skill. Namely: using one's own body to immediately (or in a very short space of time) transform the incoming energy/force. And indeed creating this transformation within one's own body as opposed to (primarily) moving it through the surrounding space to do it.
'Transformation' not in any esoteric woo-woo sense; I mean (as a very rough metaphor!) the way a trampoline, or a body of water, or a flag on a flagpole, immediately 'transforms' when subjected to incoming mass and force. This doesn't have to be in just the same way that Mizner demonstrates, or in the same kind of set-ups! But essentially, I would say yes. I've felt quite a few good or very good people who had some form of this 'immediate internal transformation' as soon as they were touched. From person to person it often felt (and looked) a bit different but the sense of something important and situation-changing happening within, say, a quarter of a second of initial contact was the common thread. And it was also the case that the more energy the 'attacker' puts in, the greater and the more 'subversive' the immediate change in the receiving body.
"4 ounces, 1000 pounds" is simply a metaphor for creating an effective result using an amount of physical effort that subjectively, to the recipient and in many cases also to the exponent (if not highly experienced), feels far too little, far too 'easy', to do the job. It feels highly counter-intuitive. But it does do the job if the body principles are applied correctly. Really no need to get hung op on specific numbers.
windwalker wrote:What do you feel is being shown ?
everything wrote:Giles wrote:something important and situation-changing happening within, say, a quarter of a second of initial contact was the common thread. And it was also the case that the more energy the 'attacker' puts in, the greater and the more 'subversive' the immediate change in the receiving body.
Everyone who posts here (I assume) can do this to some extent, just from some basic push hands or grappling. Don't think that is the "goods" or "it", but it's obviously good, maybe headed to "it".
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