Giles wrote:@ Co-lee: Thanks for your contribution.
Doc Stier wrote:Martial art videos of any kind from anyone seem to draw reactions oftentimes based mostly on subjective biases regarding the personality and presentation of the performer, rather than offering any real substantive assessment of the video content. These are usually knee jerk reactions at best.
The obvious realization that others do things differently or explain things differently than we prefer to doesn't nullify our own experience or understanding of the subject matter in any way whatsoever. Others don't have to be proven wrong in order to prove ourselves right, thereby justifying the differences. Kudos to anyone who doesn't do that.
We are all exactly where we have earned the right to currently be based upon the results of our own study and training efforts thus far. Only you can train for you. Thus, everything and everyone else is essentially irrelevant.
co-lee wrote:Graham, I'm not trying to suggest sexual assault or anything similar. Just saying it's an environment that is not friendly towards women. That's not the central idea in what I was trying to describe: a skilled practitioner and teacher who seems to have headed off in some unpleasant directions.
Bhassler wrote:Doc Stier wrote:Martial art videos of any kind from anyone seem to draw reactions oftentimes based mostly on subjective biases regarding the personality and presentation of the performer, rather than offering any real substantive assessment of the video content. These are usually knee jerk reactions at best.
The obvious realization that others do things differently or explain things differently than we prefer to doesn't nullify our own experience or understanding of the subject matter in any way whatsoever. Others don't have to be proven wrong in order to prove ourselves right, thereby justifying the differences. Kudos to anyone who doesn't do that.
We are all exactly where we have earned the right to currently be based upon the results of our own study and training efforts thus far. Only you can train for you. Thus, everything and everyone else is essentially irrelevant.
Yes, that's always a nice attitude to fall back on in order to avoid uncomfortable truths.
wayne hansen wrote:The 5 exercises will teach a great deal
See if you can find someone teaching them in their original sequence and manner
You will get even more out of them
Where are you situated
Doc Stier wrote:Bhassler wrote:Doc Stier wrote:Martial art videos of any kind from anyone seem to draw reactions oftentimes based mostly on subjective biases regarding the personality and presentation of the performer, rather than offering any real substantive assessment of the video content. These are usually knee jerk reactions at best.
The obvious realization that others do things differently or explain things differently than we prefer to doesn't nullify our own experience or understanding of the subject matter in any way whatsoever. Others don't have to be proven wrong in order to prove ourselves right, thereby justifying the differences. Kudos to anyone who doesn't do that.
We are all exactly where we have earned the right to currently be based upon the results of our own study and training efforts thus far. Only you can train for you. Thus, everything and everyone else is essentially irrelevant.
Yes, that's always a nice attitude to fall back on in order to avoid uncomfortable truths.
That's an absurd comment! I offered no opinion on the OP video whatsoever, either positive or negative, since I have no dog in that fight.
There are no "uncomfortable truths" for me to avoid.
wayne hansen wrote:7 point push is a rare gem but not how I see it done today
All of Huangs pushing exercises are real gems
3 I would practice above all are
7 point
Single arm drop
Double Shoulder with no ward off
It's a pity that Huang had such a large following and yet there are so few of his senior students about today
Bhassler wrote:Sorry, Doc, I got my Mizner threads confused.
I (mis)took your comments in the light of a number of material objections to what Mizner shows overall that have been discussed recently in other threads. From that perspective, I read your comments about subjective bias to be a bit dismissive of some real concerns that had been raised. I see now that you were most likely responding to other stuff. I mean, I guess it's the internet, so I should desperately try to protect my "reputation" with a bunch of people I don't even know and insist that you are really uncomfortable about people discussing whether or not 4 oz. is a ratio, but it's late and I don't have the energy. I'll try to get to some hardcore trolling later this week...
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