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Re: LHBF Link

Postby GingerFISH on Wed Jan 28, 2009 1:34 pm

Tom wrote:Fish, Strange, please take your verbal pattycake to PMs.

10 pages of . . . is enough.

Thanks.

Yes, sir!
I will shut up, no matter what they say again, until they come up with their own clips.
In the mean time, please allow me to summarize before I go.
Just a check to see if I miss anything, after all my enjoyable time/experience here in this forum.

Some people here,
who like calling names, twisting statements and facts by not quoting or selective quoting,
and are seemingly as bad or even worse LHBF learners than I am,
because they cannot identify any non-LHBF move or show a sparring clip of their own,
after watching my sparring clips that I didn't post,
said I was arrogant/self-contented/considering practice as useless,
even after knowing that I have self-criticisms/training reminders well written in my blog.

They insisted
that since winning not beautifully or losing by a no-body student will hurt the reputation of his master/style,
one must never go out of his classroom and spar in any MMA gathering/setting,
because people are mostly dumb and will not consider the participants' level/experience/hours of training,
and these people must be focusing on which style loses/wins rather than trying to pick up techniques for improvement,
unless he has permission from his master to do so and unless he is good (in the classroom),
which implies that he will never lose or be pushed backward outside of the classroom,
no matter who his opponent will be.


(Bad English? OK, thanks!)
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Re: LHBF Link

Postby Strange on Wed Jan 28, 2009 6:07 pm

it is? i thought everyone was just getting warmed up
:D
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Re: LHBF Link

Postby Drake on Wed Jan 28, 2009 9:35 pm

You know........ I've done/said some seriously ridiculous crap in my life, and wasted plenty of time on the same. <<shrug>> Well? It's my life, so tough. :p
This thread is, indeed, one of those ridiculous moments.

Strange: The kid is young. Leave him be if he doesn't want to "listen". My brother, WanderingDragon, had that spot on. Between he, and I we have over a hundred years of raising kids, and over 50 years of training ma's in one form or another.<<shrug>> It's generational, it's youth, it's experience (or lack thereof). It's life.

Like *all* young folk he needs to figure it out for himself, and maybe someone will get through to him eventually. This internet garbage is just that. Garbage. It's entirely counterproductive in our art, or *any* art as far as I can see. (except devere's art which is AWESOME!!) GingerFish needs to train solo more, and then test himself with 2 man drills. Then when he's done that he needs to do it *again*. *We're supposed* to know this, and *he* needs to learn how to do it. After he feels comfortable he can free hand, a bit, and see if his techniques actually work for him. If not? Well he needs to go back, and start over with the solo training, 2 man sets, etc... That's it. Period.

I'm audi..........
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Re: LHBF Link

Postby iwalkthecircle on Thu Jan 29, 2009 2:08 am

iwalkthecircle wrote:even when you don't believe that you represent your style, you still are.

once people knows that you practice LHBF yet if you sparred like a jellyFish then your style might look like a jellyFish for anyBody that never see LHBF.

People are smarter than you think or should I say smarter than you are? When they look for a Master, they look for a Master. If they are that dumb to give up something because of me, they better do!


And here iwalkthecircle has made a very valid point and one that I already echoed that even if you claim you haven't been doing it long, people will always see you performance as a reflection of the style whether you like it or not. You then insult him and say he isn't very smart, which having met him I can assure you he is intelligent and a good martial artist. People don't think they have to look for a master to see a representation of a style.

Sorry! But he insulted me many times before I used similar tone! I have been very patient all along!

=====================







let me play your game.
show me where have I insulted you before my post:
iwalkthecircle wrote:even when you don't believe that you represent your style, you still are.

once people knows that you practice LHBF yet if you sparred like a jellyFish then your style might look like a jellyFish for anyBody that never see LHBF.

"People are smarter than you think or should I say smarter than you are? When they look for a Master, they look for a Master. If they are that dumb to give up something because of me, they better do!"





show me where have i insulted you many times? Quote me?
I have been very patient all along!!!!!!
my god have you read anything i wrote?

you know how to make quotes now very good?
you must be dumber than you look, or should i say you must be smarter than you look....

most people on EF are smarter than you think or should I say smarter than you are? When they see a young kid with no skills, they see a young kid with no skill.

i have looked for LHBF fighting clips just canNot find any.
i have also heard about LHBF guy that can fight then I saw you clip..... & i was asking Strange what makes good LHBF?
obviously you did not look anything like LHBF fighting to him, nor do you look anything like someOne that studied any martial art to me......

i went to your blog and read\watch everyThing relating to MA on your blog.
like i said the song were OKAY.
besides that you are just an arrogent young kid with no skill.
reading them once is enough.

i have been an arrogent young kid before (i think last year.....), this year i have grown older and wider.
or is it yesterday? well i can always be older and wiser tomorrow.
when you are older you will know that the difference between last year and yesterday is someTimes not so much.
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Re: LHBF Link

Postby iwalkthecircle on Thu Jan 29, 2009 2:21 am

actually it is nice that this thread is in BTDT.

it is all free game from here.
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Re: LHBF Link

Postby GingerFISH on Thu Jan 29, 2009 2:39 am

iwalkthecircle wrote:
iwalkthecircle wrote:even when you don't believe that you represent your style, you still are.

once people knows that you practice LHBF yet if you sparred like a jellyFish then your style might look like a jellyFish for anyBody that never see LHBF.

People are smarter than you think or should I say smarter than you are? When they look for a Master, they look for a Master. If they are that dumb to give up something because of me, they better do!

And here iwalkthecircle has made a very valid point and one that I already echoed that even if you claim you haven't been doing it long, people will always see you performance as a reflection of the style whether you like it or not. You then insult him and say he isn't very smart, which having met him I can assure you he is intelligent and a good martial artist. People don't think they have to look for a master to see a representation of a style.

Sorry! But he insulted me many times before I used similar tone! I have been very patient all along!

=====================

let me play your game.
show me where have I insulted you before my post:
....

I said you didn't read and you didn't read.
The red line of what I said clearly indicated HE. I didn't say YOU! Give me a break, would you?

(Could you do people here a favor by removing all those lines that are blank?)
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Re: LHBF Link

Postby iwalkthecircle on Thu Jan 29, 2009 2:45 am

GingerFISH wrote:
iwalkthecircle wrote:
iwalkthecircle wrote:even when you don't believe that you represent your style, you still are.

once people knows that you practice LHBF yet if you sparred like a jellyFish then your style might look like a jellyFish for anyBody that never see LHBF.

People are smarter than you think or should I say smarter than you are? When they look for a Master, they look for a Master. If they are that dumb to give up something because of me, they better do!

And here iwalkthecircle has made a very valid point and one that I already echoed that even if you claim you haven't been doing it long, people will always see you performance as a reflection of the style whether you like it or not. You then insult him and say he isn't very smart, which having met him I can assure you he is intelligent and a good martial artist. People don't think they have to look for a master to see a representation of a style.

Sorry! But he insulted me many times before I used similar tone! I have been very patient all along!

=====================

let me play your game.
show me where have I insulted you before my post:
....

I said you didn't read and you didn't read.
The red line of what I said clearly indicated HE. I didn't say YOU! Give me a break, would you?

(Could you do people here a favor by removing all those lines that are blank?)








you did write "he" right after you quoted "me".
in this case "he" actually refers to "me" not to "him (strange)".

i did read, and you did write.
why would i give you a break...
SC is always attack attack attack......
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Re: LHBF Link

Postby GingerFISH on Thu Jan 29, 2009 2:56 am

iwalkthecircle wrote:
GingerFISH wrote:
iwalkthecircle wrote:People are smarter than you think or should I say smarter than you are? When they look for a Master, they look for a Master. If they are that dumb to give up something because of me, they better do!

And here iwalkthecircle has made a very valid point and one that I already echoed that even if you claim you haven't been doing it long, people will always see you performance as a reflection of the style whether you like it or not. You then insult him and say he isn't very smart, which having met him I can assure you he is intelligent and a good martial artist. People don't think they have to look for a master to see a representation of a style.

Sorry! But he insulted me many times before I used similar tone! I have been very patient all along!

=====================

let me play your game.
show me where have I insulted you before my post:
....

I said you didn't read and you didn't read.
The red line of what I said clearly indicated HE. I didn't say YOU! Give me a break, would you?

(Could you do people here a favor by removing all those lines that are blank?)


you did write he right after you quoted me.
in that case he actually refers to me not to him.

i did read, and you did write.
why would i give you a break...
SC is always attack attack attack......

Give me a break! Will you?
I didn't quote YOU. I quoted what you said!
And in the quote you wrote "You then insulted HIM...".
You wrote about HIM! When I said HE, I meant HE.

(The quote was removed as quotes are limited to 3 levels only. If you want to check, go to my or your previous reply.)
(And please, do the people here a favor, remove extra lines before you submit!)
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Re: LHBF Link

Postby GingerFISH on Thu Jan 29, 2009 3:10 am

It's just amazing to see how some people here stuffed words in my mouth. Just a waste of my time to continue.
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Re: LHBF Link

Postby iwalkthecircle on Thu Jan 29, 2009 3:32 am

GingerFISH wrote:It's just amazing to see how some people here stuffed words in my mouth. Just a waste of my time to continue.



i did not stuff word in your mouth.
you wrote what you wrote.

finally we are getting someWhere,
how this mayb a waste of time.......

it is just base rule of grammer, when you just quote someOne,
and put "he" after that sentence.
"he" refers to the auther of that quote.


do you know any logic?
do you know how to read, and basic rule of writing?
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Re: LHBF Link

Postby iwalkthecircle on Thu Jan 29, 2009 3:34 am

Strange wrote:it is? i thought everyone was just getting warmed up
:D



......
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Re: LHBF Link

Postby GingerFISH on Thu Jan 29, 2009 3:44 am

iwalkthecircle wrote:
GingerFISH wrote:It's just amazing to see how some people here stuffed words in my mouth. Just a waste of my time to continue.



i did not stuff word in your mouth.
you wrote what you wrote.

finally we are getting someWhere,
how this mayb a waste of time.......

it is just base rule of grammer, when you just quote someOne,
and put "he" after that sentence.
"he" refers to the auther of that quote.


do you know any logic?
do you know how to read, and basic rule of writing?

Oh great! Grammar? Logic? Give me a break!
But I was talking to YOU!
If I was talking to YOU and mentioned HE, how could that HE be YOU?
Gosh!!!

(Do you really have to use so many lines that are blank?)
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Re: LHBF Link

Postby iwalkthecircle on Thu Jan 29, 2009 3:52 am

grammer and logic are tools.








what kind of break do you want?
these are lineBreaks.....









yes i love my blank lines.....
im a python programmer.
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Re: LHBF Link

Postby GingerFISH on Thu Jan 29, 2009 3:54 am

iwalkthecircle wrote:grammer and logic are tools.








what kind of break do you want?
these are lineBreaks.....









yes i love my blank lines.....
im a python programmer.

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Re: LHBF Link

Postby iwalkthecircle on Thu Jan 29, 2009 3:57 am

no.
you are the best, not me.
i am sorry plese forgive me!






you have won, not me.
i have no doubt about it either.





my skill is no good compare to you.
http://gingerFish.willkillusall.com/




i dont even have a clip of LHBF fighting clip onLine like you do.
i am not good with LHBFXXXX.
i just like to organize fights.






i only have 6-dan instead of 7-dan, and yet you have tagged me 20 times and deflected everyThing from me with one hand.
wait dont go yet!!
we must put all this on youTube on this bout didNot happen.
you must be bored already.
i must train more.
this is the my 500th bouts, i have cramps on my leg when this happened and I still won the match.
feel free to comment......


(if by the offChance that you made any comments, I will change my blogInChinese and make up more excuses for mySelf just because I am very cool like that. furtherMore I will assume that noOne on EF.com will read it since it is in Chinese except iwtc and strange. i will keep on making excuses for mySelf just like what i do at most of the post on this thread. poor me poor me i got hit on the head by a group of people, and i dont want my teacher to know. )




maybe we should get a room or something and do group hugs.













==========
i will give you one clip.
since im just a SC guy.

as far as clips goes i only have SC clips:
i do lots 2men drills, equipment training, and SC matches most of the time.

i dont mind posting drills, since it really helps everyOne.
here is one of SC drill that i like to do:
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保定摔角(SC)-- John Wang(王世元), Matt Mollica
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