John Bracy's Ba Gua

[kshurika]

I see, so a bagua instructor who is a repeat sex offender does not belong in one of "the more serious forums"? How are you defining "serious"? Who can move his chi fastest and farthest?

[yusuf]

Jake-

You should probably provide some back-up to your assertion that John Bracy is a "convicted molester/pedophile." I just did a quick check of registered sex offenders in California and his name did not come up. If he is a sex offender, then people should definitely be made aware. If he is not, then you should retract your statement. Please give us more details. Thanks.

-Steve

Steve--

The California sex offender registration program didn't start until July 1995. The charges against Bracy were brought in 1990, and convictions before 1995 would not have shown up on the database.

stuff happened in the last ten years as well.. i'm wondering why that hasn;t showed up?

[SteveBonzak]

Jake-

You should probably provide some back-up to your assertion that John Bracy is a "convicted molester/pedophile." I just did a quick check of registered sex offenders in California and his name did not come up. If he is a sex offender, then people should definitely be made aware. If he is not, then you should retract your statement. Please give us more details. Thanks.

-Steve

Steve--

The California sex offender registration program didn't start until July 1995. The charges against Bracy were brought in 1990, and convictions before 1995 would not have shown up on the database.

Thanks, Tom.

[Tom]

http://chiarts.com/content/view/155/1/
June 28, 2009


John Bracy interview by Ian Johnson

IAN JOHNSON (I.J.) : Why have you decided to retire from full-time teaching?

JOHN BRACY (JB): By my stepping aside, it allows Roger Niez to develop as a master, and allows other instructors to advance to their potential. If Roger and other instructors are able to attain a master level of understanding it means that the art and the research that has gone into it over the past forty years has a greater chance of continuing.

When one teacher stays in the dominant/ director position too long, the junior instructors aren't able to reach their potential. You cannot become a master without training juniors to instructor level. In a sophisticated set of martial arts like the "internal," there are numerous problems to be solved. For example, what qualities are missing in a particular student, why is he or she unable to move or apply power properly? Making nei chia chuan internal boxing work in real combat is one of the most challenging physical discipline problems. Mastery--and thus, continuing of the rarified internal tradition-- is attained through solving these types of puzzles. Every aspect of the discipline must be analyzed and corrections made. Only through that process of problem solving and dedication to others "getting it" is a master borne.

IJ: What are you changing about your teaching and training schedules now entering "partial retirement" ?

JB: First, I will have more time to travel and work on some of my interest and projects like my new on-line video training business. I also look forward to spending more time with our associated school in Miami. Two guys there (as well as two in our southern California group) are interested in, and training for, applying internal martial arts to MMA style competitions. It would be great to be able to validate the internal martial arts as a valid open fighting system, and be part of that. I also want to finish the final stages of my second book.

As for teaching, I will still be helping out with training instructors how to teach at least for a while, and still involved in advanced Tai Chi, Taoist yoga and meditation classes. The guys still need help becoming fully effective teachers. The black sash instructors need guidance, and some guys here (along with the Miami group) are interested in applying the internal martial arts to MMA- Mixed martial art style fighting. I still have some important roles to play.

. . . .

[shawnsegler]

I wonder how many of the articles at matbattle.com start out this way.

When one teacher stays in the dominant/ director position too long, the junior instructors aren't able to reach their potential.]

[Dmitri]

Damn you Shawn, you made me look at that website!!

Must have eye-cleanser.

[big kahuna]

Hi all,

In case anyone wants the real story on the whole John Bracy thing, I think I can clear a few things up. John Bracy did plead guilty to having sexual contact with one adolescent boy and he spent about 6 month in jail right around 1990 (I don't recall the exact dates off the top of my head). He could have actually spent a few years in jail but was able to plea bargain down to only a few months. I actually have the local newspaper articles as well as the court transcripts detailing the accusations and trial packed away somewhere.

Then in 2001-2002 new alligations surfaced that he was having inappropriate sexual contact with many of his students, most of whom I knew personally. As far as I know they were all younger male students but they were all over 18 years old. Over a 1-2 month period the majority of his students and instructors left his school and refused to associate with him any longer. Most of these students reported that although the contact was technically consensual, Bracy almost always used some type of pressure to instigate this sexual contact.

I won't go into the gory details but it was actually some pretty twisted stuff.

All I can say is that anyone choosing to associate with John Bracy had better keep their guard up and not believe too much of the bullshit that comes out of his mouth.

Mike

[qiphlow]

Damn you Shawn, you made me look at that website!!

Must have eye-cleanser.

sweet, sweet scarlett...

quoted because she deserves it.

[Darth Rock&Roll]

Is it this guy?

BRACY,JONATHAN JOSHUA
8429 MARINERS DR #42 ,Stockton,CA 95219

found here: http://www.zirana.com/stockton/register ... s_map.html

[Bär]

No, sorry sir, not yawn.
I was criticized by a former friend (hate it when someone I held in high esteem does that) for adding to this but one of his former instructors at his school (who was my student at the time and a damned nice guy) was quite candid in his revelation that the seniors of Bracy's school told him to go away and closed the school in their embarrassment.
This sort of shit can never be forgotten. It is a curse and a shame to us all. Targeting children should never be forgotten!


A Father

Oh yeah. This thread positively REEKS of charity & goodwill and thinking of the children. Not at all like stale MA gossip.

Make no assumption that I'm defending Bracy or his sort.

[Tom]

Is it this guy?

BRACY,JONATHAN JOSHUA
8429 MARINERS DR #42 ,Stockton,CA 95219

found here: http://www.zirana.com/stockton/register ... s_map.html

No. It is John Duff Bracy, and he is not listed on the current sex offender registry in California because the acts being discussed occurred before the registry went into effect in July 1995.

John Duff Bracy is (or was) married and living in the Costa Mesa area.

[chud]

Hi all,

In case anyone wants the real story on the whole John Bracy thing, I think I can clear a few things up. John Bracy did plead guilty to having sexual contact with one adolescent boy and he spent about 6 month in jail right around 1990 (I don't recall the exact dates off the top of my head). He could have actually spent a few years in jail but was able to plea bargain down to only a few months. I actually have the local newspaper articles as well as the court transcripts detailing the accusations and trial packed away somewhere.

Then in 2001-2002 new alligations surfaced that he was having inappropriate sexual contact with many of his students, most of whom I knew personally. As far as I know they were all younger male students but they were all over 18 years old. Over a 1-2 month period the majority of his students and instructors left his school and refused to associate with him any longer. Most of these students reported that although the contact was technically consensual, Bracy almost always used some type of pressure to instigate this sexual contact.

I won't go into the gory details but it was actually some pretty twisted stuff.

All I can say is that anyone choosing to associate with John Bracy had better keep their guard up and not believe too much of the bullshit that comes out of his mouth.

Mike

Thanks for posting, and welcome to the forum.

[nianfong]

hey big kahuna, can you scan those articles in and post them? that would pretty much clear up anyone's doubts about the matter.

[Tom]

hey big kahuna, can you scan those articles in and post them? that would pretty much clear up anyone's doubts about the matter.

That will clear them up about as much as producing the birth certificate cleared up issue about Obama's citizenship.

[Bär]

Tom FTW.