ashe wrote:wude.
JAB wrote: Actually I lie.... Tim taught for 10 hours in Portland, I believe the weekend was $100. So there you have it.
GrahamB wrote:It's also worth noting that in the big scheme of things the difference between $100 and $200 is not that great. Go train Big Mind(tm) with Genpo Roshi and you're looking at $20,000 for the experience. A lot of these spiritual groups won't think twice about charging thousands to get enlightenment from the master. The scary thing is some people must be paying for this nonsense. Compare that to paying $250 for a weekend of actual real martial arts training!
cerebus wrote:GrahamB wrote:It's also worth noting that in the big scheme of things the difference between $100 and $200 is not that great. Go train Big Mind(tm) with Genpo Roshi and you're looking at $20,000 for the experience. A lot of these spiritual groups won't think twice about charging thousands to get enlightenment from the master. The scary thing is some people must be paying for this nonsense. Compare that to paying $250 for a weekend of actual real martial arts training!
Damn. I'm in the wrong business...
johnwang wrote:I just paid $580 for 1 and 1/2 day of work to fix the roof of my Gazebo. I believe the material was $180 and $400 was the labor. Please don't tell me that our CMA guy's time have less value than the roofing guy. The day that we can make more money by wash dishes than teaching CMA, the day that we should all get a rope, find a quite place, and hang ourselves.
Franklin wrote:ok
if you really believe that the venue will not handle the price- maybe it would be better to contact the promoters (or poster of the information) by PM- and give them the low down on the situation through your eyes
seems to me you would make more friends that way.... and come off less like your goal is to break people's rice bowls
Franklin
ps-
my opinion is that people can charge what they want
i have had teachers that taught me for free and others that i had to pay
everyone has to eat-
bailewen wrote:The difference is that you paid for "private roofing". He only fixed your roof. At a martial arts seminar, if only 10 people show up for Graham's example, the instructor collected $2500 for that day. Did your roofing guy fix 10 people's roofs on that day or just one?
I think that $250 for a day of private training would be an excellent deal....one I could never afford but an excellent deal nevertheless.
$250 per student at a seminar that had 2 dozen students is completely different. If there are people out there who can afford it then that's really cool and I am glad that it's possible to make (for 2 dozen students @ $250 ea.) $5500 for just a day or twos work, let's be generous and say a whole weekend because the dude had to fly out and stay in a motel somewhere...so take out a generous $1500 for expenses. That still leaves $4000 for just working the weekend.
Hardly the same category of income as a roofing guy.
bailewen wrote:...so take out a generous $1500 for expenses.....
ashe wrote:...the math doesn't quite work out that way. ..
...that's a minimum outlay of around $1500 for the weekend and possibly $2700 if the organizer has to rent space.
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