Ah, the Yak.

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Re: Ah, the Yak.

Postby Doc Stier on Sat Oct 23, 2010 8:12 pm

I am really disappointed in this thread! :-\

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I thought for sure that the Yak would receive a horrific verbal smack-down here, which would encompass several more pages of colorful and insulting vitriol! Oh, well....maybe next time. ;D
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Re: Ah, the Yak.

Postby Royal Dragon on Mon Nov 29, 2010 6:09 pm

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northern_mantis wrote:I don't know much of the background to this situation but it's quite shoccking how much of a $£*! this guy must have been for an extended period of time.

We all make mistakes and can generally get through life ok with apologies, trying not to do the same thing again and acknowledging we're none of us perfect.

This guy must of made a conscious decision to do none of those things. It takes real effort to be this hated!


There is a lot of background...

like over a decade of background.

long story short - rumsoaskedfist used to be emptyflower - started by DDV and Felipe and maintained by a few other devoted brethren. It was a small forum attatched to DDVs design website, emptyflower.com

DDV could no longer maintain the forum - the Yak, who had only been a member for a few years, volunteered, purchased the copyright, started 'online bagua courses' and other assorted bullshit that the flower never stood for. I think he took DDV to court and tried to take away his original design website etc, but I am really uninformed on the details and could be getting some fine points wrong.

To shorten it even further to a point that I'm comfortable with my accuracy - HE STOLE MY FLOWER!


Sort of. It was more like he was operating under the Emptyflower name by David Dever's permission, subject to certain restrictions, like not being a commercial entity. When he violated the agreement, David Devere relinquish his permission to use the Emptyflower name, so Yak went and fraudulently filed for the copyright of the name.

I don't remember if it ended up in court, or not, but in all honesty Devere had a really solid case from what we all could see if he was interested in pursuing it. The resources needed to serve justice were not worth it and he let it go, much to our dismay.

So today, the Real Emptyflower is now called "Rumsoakedfist" and some charlatan is parading around like he's the real deal when, in reality, he's a total conman who got away with it.
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Re: Ah, the Yak.

Postby affa on Tue Nov 30, 2010 8:14 am

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Re: Ah, the Yak.

Postby Buddy on Thu Mar 17, 2011 4:03 pm

Haven't been around in a very long time (and won't be for another one). So, just thought I'd bring this around for absolutely no good reason. :)
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Re: Ah, the Yak.

Postby Doc Stier on Sat Mar 19, 2011 10:24 am

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Re: Ah, the Yak.

Postby klonk on Sat Mar 19, 2011 2:08 pm

Everytime I forget about that whole silly and sorry series of episodes, someone brings it up again. Stop, awready. We've gone over all that. I mean, what's more to say?

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Re: Ah, the Yak.

Postby shawnsegler on Sun Mar 20, 2011 8:34 am

That he's a douchebag and if he's even making one red cent with his stolen bitch-site then he continues to rob all of us and we shouldn't forget that ever.

Time makes people forget and it shouldn't be forgotten that he's an amoral sack of shit who likely continues to cause people grief.

So, fuck him yet again.

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Re: Ah, the Yak.

Postby Chris Fleming on Sun Mar 20, 2011 9:32 am

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Re: Ah, the Yak.

Postby mrtoes on Mon Mar 21, 2011 10:51 am

shawnsegler wrote:That he's a douchebag and if he's even making one red cent with his stolen bitch-site then he continues to rob all of us and we shouldn't forget that ever


The other site is dead. The other admin has just stepped down from lack of interest. Most forums have threads on the front page that haven't been touched in years.

I wouldn't stress it.

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Re: Ah, the Yak.

Postby Dmitri on Mon Mar 21, 2011 10:57 am

Nobody here is going to forget anything I'm sure.
I'm just tired of seeing this thread, personally... Plus, the man seems to love attention, and this is giving it to him, whether "negative" or not.

I think oblivion is a much better response, in this case, than the various FUs, pictures, etc.

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Re: Ah, the Yak.

Postby Mr_Wood on Mon Mar 21, 2011 11:53 am

Before this thread dies a death I was wondering if anyone has the sweet artwork which used to be on the other site ?
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Re: Ah, the Yak.

Postby DiaitaDoc on Mon Mar 21, 2011 1:45 pm

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Re: Ah, the Yak.

Postby nianfong on Mon Mar 21, 2011 1:49 pm

you mean the original site? David has it all archived up somewhere. We were trying to restore all the old xingyi info onto another URL, but David kinda dropped of the planet, as he is wont to do. apparently he's getting married soon.

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Re: Ah, the Yak.

Postby Mr_Wood on Tue Mar 22, 2011 2:31 am

yeah from the original site. I like his artwork combined with the past masters etc...Somebody must have saved some of it ? I know I did but that was 2 pc's ago :(

Im gonna start a new thread for sweet artwork stuff etc..
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Re: Ah, the Yak.

Postby Felipe Bidó on Tue Mar 22, 2011 10:28 am

My student, forum member Froggie, sent me this:

http://www.ottawakungfu.org/xing-yi/xin ... mptyflower

Haha, look at me. I was young.
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