This sums up Dana for me...
I'm with Omar. If Fedor's guys had signed the negotiations would have went something like this...
I'm glad someone stood up to Dana.
bailewen wrote:You know....on of my last nights in Thailand last week, I was hanging out in this bar with a couple of Brits and this Dutch guy and somehow this argument broke out over how many states there are in the US. I told them we had 50 states and they actually didn't think I counted right becuase they were sure we had 52. Despite protestations that Peurto Rico and Canada are not states they actually bet me a round of beers that there were more than 50.
Chris Fleming wrote:"I'm not a pie in the sky idealist."
If you think that various organizations should put "the fans" first and all work hand in hand to make certain fights happen, then you are.
When it comes to the business, you can't be all happy-go-lucky when it comes to dealing with rival organizations. Again, you either have the business owners mentality or the employee mentality.
I would even go so far as to say that the UFC does not exist for the fans either, they exist to make money.
"Why should I, a fan of the sport and of martial arts in general, give a rats ass over the promoters market share."
You shouldn't. It's not your business and none of those realities personally affect you. However, these things are a big deal to those who actually run the business.
grzegorz wrote:This sums up Dana for me...
I'm with Omar. If Fedor's guys had signed the negotiations would have went something like this...
I'm glad someone stood up to Dana.
Chris Fleming wrote:"When the consumer is not satisfied with the product, I suppose we are now supposed to tell the consumer (me) that I just don't understand management and am stuck in an "employee mentality"?"
Yes.
You are free not to buy the product you are not satisfied with.
"I want to see the fight. Dana won't let me."
That's kindergarten thinking.
"I have a consumer mentality."
Yes that is a good point. The tricky distinction that people don't get is the businesses, which fail if consumers do not support them, are NOT in existence for the consumer. Businesses are out to make you, the consumer (I thought we were people, but I digress) feel like the business is there for and in existence for you, but in reality it is not--a business is in business for the owners of the business. Joke's on you. The UFC wants, PRIMARILY, to sign a Brock/Fedor fight to make money, not to make you happy. There are secondary reasons, like wanting to give people what they want, to produce a good product, etc, but these, no matter what they say, are not the PRIMARY reason anyone is in business.
"He doesn't give a shit about us either."
Bingo. You're on track now. The problem however with your other statement about not caring about the UFC's bottom line is that you then have to reference back to this statement: "He doesn't give a shit about us either". It doesn't matter if you don't care about what it takes to run a business or if you agree with the management's decision or if they won't negotiate more/make more concessions with M-1.
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