jjy5016 wrote:Hello Dan,
I'm sure that he tells a different story now that his status in yiquan was upgraded to teacher. This person was my younger classmate and never really got the basics of our class down well due to his time spent with our teacher.
Last time I saw "that person" I felt that he hadn't improved much. For the purpose of aikido and whatever he has learned from you he might have made a vast improvement but not in yiquan. He spoke highly about you and what he learned but I was not interested. I feel well within my right to say that I don't feel training in your methods had made a big difference in his skills. I apologized if I've bruised that rather large ego of yours.
Not sure what comment you are referring to about horizontal power with the spine.In the systems I practice and teach horizontal rotation of the spine is an essential element for issuing certain types of force. It's alright that you believe it has no substance. It works quite well for me.
All the BS aside you might very well be highly skilled Dan. I don't know. I'll describe what I do in detail whenever someone asks as I don't believe in mysteries and hype. I even invite them to come and meet me. You seem to want to get people in the doors at your workshops and do a good job of it I might add. I don't begrudge anyone making a living teaching. Wish I could quit my accounting job and do the same.
As I wrote in the unusual power post I have had my power tried and tested many times and lauded by more than one recognized Chinese grandmaster including this past weekend so I'm in no need of recognition or pats on the back from you nor am I promoting what I do. I do not make a living teaching or giving workshops. I post here to share with others and sometimes meet with them for the purpose of learning and practicing. It is a public forum and by posting here one is open to criticism.
Good luck to you.
small John
...so I would think the manipulation of such a fine muscle group as the multifidi would necessitate a very fine breath skill as well.
So my question, as you work to create this spinal torquing/lengthening, what ever manipulation we would use to create this power,what kind of breath work would be warranted?
Chris McKinley wrote:Check that Shooter thread for some of the most useful info, both from myself and others. Steve Rowe has been putting out some good blog articles and clips. Meeks's stuff is always good. As to Dan's stuff, he's well known for both his secrecy and self-promotion with his material as well as his...undiplomatic....treatment of everyone else. I've recently searched his entire posting history and found nothing specific or substantive. Others have different opinions of it. I think he's probably got some good stuff, but none of that group has shared much of anything tangible or specific. I would recommend you check him out for yourself if you are inclined and you find the opportunity.
Specifically, I'm thinking of physical relaxation as a response to stress or pain.
Bodywork wrote:jjy5016 wrote:Good to see that others do it.
Chris when you speak of spinal torque it makes me think of a horizontal movement of the spine instead of the vertical stretch.
D_Glenn I wasn't sure if that was what you were talking about in that post you linked to.
I find that I can use it for both long and short power. Don't really test it out too much on others. Usually I just let them hang onto an arm loosely or have them hold a thick book against the chest and I release through the fingers into it.
I''ve only taught it to a few of my classmates but none of them seem to want to do it. Almost like they are afraid. One of them has gone to about a dozen Dan Harden workshops and he isn't showing it. Poor guy hasn't improved much either. Last time I pushed hands with him it didn't seem to have helped him much if at all. Harden is doing a similar thing to what Sigman used to do which is to stir up interest in his workshops by starting up a heated discussion. What I find with a bunch of names mentioned in the "unusual power" thread is that a lot of their technique and power has to do with their size. Not saying that the individuals noted in that thread don't have real skill. Saying that I wonder how much of it has to do with their size.
Harden's coming to NJ and I was tempted to go check him out but don't want to fork over $175.00 to see if he's all that. Besides, I try to avoid NJ as much as possible.
Well that's my "secret" technique contribution to the thread. Anyone else?
Well, that's fascinating
a. That person tells a different story about you
b. Summing up twenty years of my teaching -with some very potent men that hundreds have felt...all by you (or anyone) meeting one person speaks for itself.
c. I have now met hundreds of students of the very best teachers of JMA and ICMA alive. Do I judge the Masterclass teachers...by them? Should I start slamming Sam Chin, He Jinbao, and CJW, WHJ, LDX because of their students efforts? How about I do a write up of me putting my hands on some master class teacheres themselves and the results. I have dates and details and witnesses.
Is that what RSF is about?
If and when we meet (and it goes as it usually does) should I come here and slam your teacher...because of you?
I agree with the premise of seeing if someone has power, then if they have students with power. I fit that description. Hundreds of senior people have met dozens of my students. You are a nobody (that's okay I am too) standing on the street corner, taking a cheap shot that cost you nothing....good job!
The good news is that for the *majority* of us who stay in Budo, we usually meet people just like ourselves; seasoned people with views developed through experience, trial and failure, somewhat jaded, but fair minded straight shooters.
Dan
jjy5016 wrote:Anyone using the spine to produce similar results?
...D_Glenn, I wasn't sure if that was what you were talking about in that post you linked to.
...Well that's my "secret" technique contribution to the thread. Anyone else?
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