Dale Dugas wrote:As my teachers have taught me various methods to help reduce the excessive tension from your structure, it can be simplified into learning to relax using visualizations of hanging the meat from the bones, to place your awareness into certain muscles and with movement open them up.
The least amount of residual tension in your muscles can then be entrained to be utilized.
Standing helps to reduce this and to teach other concepts.
I have stood in Uechi Ryu Karate, South Mantis, and Baguazhang.
Aged Tiger wrote:Agreed Dale, my favorites taught are; the "sinking into mud" for rooting, and "skin hanging from your bones" (absent/sung muscle) examples. I liken it to a Salvador Dali painting, but still alert.
Bao wrote:Aged Tiger wrote:Agreed Dale, my favorites taught are; the "sinking into mud" for rooting, and "skin hanging from your bones" (absent/sung muscle) examples. I liken it to a Salvador Dali painting, but still alert.
I liked the Salvador Dali painting analogy, but those watches have no real weight. My teacher says stuff like "be like a potato sack" and "feel that you are like wet cement". I like to feel heavy.
D_Glenn wrote:Dr. Xie said all the Taijiquan who were worth their weight practiced the form this way. It's not so much about moving into a posture and holding it but taking roughly 2 or more minutes to move into and out of each movement (shi). The important part was to get the sensation of 'weiqi' in your hands and keep it there for the whole 2 hours or so that it took to go through the form. Keeping that unbroken 'silkthread' of 'weiqi' is the determining factor for how fast you can go, if you lose it you need to slow way down, even stopping to regain it, then slowly start moving again.
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yeniseri wrote:Question for D_Glenn.
I have only heard about ding shi about 5 years ago! Previously my reference was taijizhuang (holding individual postures for x duration) independent of a form! I had on older teacher who used the term but he had a different perspective as I understood. Am I to understand that the practice of ding shi involved going through a specific form but stopping at e.g. certain areas for x duration then continue to the next stopping posture for x duration until the ending of the routine? Am I right here per the question?
...but stopping at e.g. certain areas for x duration then continue to the next stopping posture for x duration until the ending of the routine?
Bao wrote:Aged Tiger wrote:Agreed Dale, my favorites taught are; the "sinking into mud" for rooting, and "skin hanging from your bones" (absent/sung muscle) examples. I liken it to a Salvador Dali painting, but still alert.
I liked the Salvador Dali painting analogy, but those watches have no real weight. My teacher says stuff like "be like a potato sack" and "feel that you are like wet cement". I like to feel heavy.
northerndevotee wrote:I was taught ding shi in the wu tunan lineage and would just like to point out holding for 3-6 breaths as we are taught does not mean 3 4 5 6 breaths depending on your ability or time available. You should be able to relax into each posture within 3-6 breaths then move onto the next (without having to adjust tension) thus the form should take 2 hours. To 'work up' to 6 breaths per posture and take 4/5 hours is not the goal here.
As for standing postures 40 min per posture is a good target especialy for beginners who will often take 30 min just to relax enough to find their chi flow.
Just my tuppence worth take it as you will.
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