cdobe wrote:Thank you very much for the additional information Yuen-Ming. Very enlightening. Should set some people around here rethinking about the authority of some of the claims that have been made here.
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cdobe wrote:Thank you very much for the additional information Yuen-Ming. Very enlightening. Should set some people around here rethinking about the authority of some of the claims that have been made here.
CaliG wrote:Well, I consider myself a real man. But I don't feel that there is anything I've said or done to you, I'ld need to apologize for
I guess you're just too sensitive for me to try to talk to.
Because when I respond to you, you take it personally. I encouraged you to take your research to China and you took that as an insult.
I really don't know what they in Germany. Why don't you tell us?
As far as the apology you know what I'm talking about. But it's not really for me I'm fine, it was more a chance for you to redeem yourself.
Anyway, I'll PM you.
CaliG wrote:I guess you're just too sensitive for me to try to talk to.
Because when I respond to you, you take it personally. I encouraged you to take your research to China and you took that as an insult.
CaliG wrote:
You Brits have no problem attacking and making fun of Americans, yet if we bring up a war from the past, which someone else brought up then what we can't mentioned the events of that war because someone is German?
CaliG wrote:Why don't you do to China and see the pictures of all those killed in the invasion of Hong Kong and tell those people that everyone knew the Japanese were coming?
To me that's much more insulting than bringing up a war posters on here had nothing to do with.
Dai Zhi Qiang wrote:I think this thread has had its run.
Best to move on as I don't believe everyone is going to come to a mutual agreement about anything presented so far. I believe there has been some interesting information shared, but a lot of round and round the mulberry bush.
I think people will agree that you cannot claim any theory as an established fact, that is a little narrow minded. There are to many people involved (each with a piece of the puzzle), time and geography is involved as well. Since no one was there during the time all this stuff happened, all we have left are fragments from peoples memories.
Yuen-Ming wrote:cdobe wrote:The problem with Ma Yueliang's claims [...]
I think that drawing Mr. Yan's claims back on the late Master Ma' shoulders is not fair so I'd like to give some background that most friends in the west might have missed.
When Mr. Yan started to publish his "Wu family history" on some chinese magazines a few years ago he basically disclosed all *family affairs* in public and disparaged most and every other master in order to raise his own.
His first articles raised the eyebrows and more of a lot of people in China, some of which demanded his public apologies. Not happy enough, he raided with friends the houses of those who publicly reprimanded him - some of those in their seventies - in an attempt to "test their skills".
The Ma group in Shanghai immediately took the distance from Mr. Yan explaining that he was not a disciple of Master Ma but that he studied with his (now ex) wife Shi Meilin, an adopted daughter of Ma, who also migrated to New Zeland.
Later Mr. Yan re-published his "Wu family history" in book form, adding material copied verbatim from various magazines in China. So much so that he copied even the typographical mistakes from a number of articles and, needless to say, without ever quoting any source.
Now it seems he is ready to publish a new book, this time in english ...
YM
stephen yan wrote:YM, i don't know which style of taichi you come from ,or if your line's some master was defeated by me
stephen yan wrote: [...] none of them were over 70 years old , this was another lie to make up the stories that i took advantage of old taiji masters [...]
stephen yan wrote:Why you so bitter about it ? it was my fisrt book , of cause lots of information about other styles of taiji was from the magazines i read over the years , i didn't have lots of experience by then(1989) , but at least it was the starting point for me for desciding to do research into other styles of taiji and it's history by meself.
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