AllanF wrote:Bian Zhiqin is the disciple of Li Jingwu as is Ren Zhongxin, clips of whom i posted on the other thread...but...here is a clip of Li Jingwu, (Note the 2nd person doing tuishou with him is reportedly NOT his student and does Xingyiquan). From the above clips of Bian Zhiqin it would appear that she has surpassed her teacher and Ren Zhongxin by quite some margin!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vgt7YBDktjo
Do their body methods look the same?
XiaoXiong wrote:I don't agree. My own teacher has told me stories about Yang Kun who needed help out of bed, then tossed him accross the room and needed help back to bed. I've met others who were really good but mostly only show more clear stuff. Even teacher Luo and Qian showed me some of this kind of stuff. Jeff has made a lot of it clearer for me by explaining and demonstrating some of the principals. It's not mystical, it's real and I think people are making certain distinctions that I am not. I see more similarity in the videos posted than differences. It's a matter of degrees of difference to me. I think that what blows my mind is that all these IMA guys don't believe in the high level skills. That is so sad. Isn't that why we chose IMA? For high level skills? I didn't choose to study taiji so that any mma guy with 2 years of training could kick my ass. That's all I'm sayin'. Don't you guys believe in the depth of these arts!?! Wtf? Did you think you knew it all? Reality check, you don't know everything, and everything is not easy to explain. What if all that daoist shit is true? What if you can't speak of it?
Jess
XiaoXiong wrote:I don't agree. My own teacher has told me stories about Yang Kun who needed help out of bed, then tossed him accross the room and needed help back to bed.
XiaoXiong wrote:I've met others who were really good but mostly only show more clear stuff. Even teacher Luo and Qian showed me some of this kind of stuff. Jeff has made a lot of it clearer for me by explaining and demonstrating some of the principals. It's not mystical, it's real and I think people are making certain distinctions that I am not. I see more similarity in the videos posted than differences. It's a matter of degrees of difference to me. I think that what blows my mind is that all these IMA guys don't believe in the high level skills. That is so sad. Isn't that why we chose IMA? For high level skills? I didn't choose to study taiji so that any mma guy with 2 years of training could kick my ass. That's all I'm sayin'. Don't you guys believe in the depth of these arts!?! Wtf? Did you think you knew it all? Reality check, you don't know everything, and everything is not easy to explain. What if all that daoist shit is true? What if you can't speak of it?
Jess
What bugs me is that in this forum we have people that have been practicing 40 years, and travelling the world, etc. How come they have never talked about personally experiencing skills like these?
You are free to believe what you want, of course. I may be wrong, but im open to anything that might change my mind.
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