neijia_boxer wrote:dspyrido wrote:Well duh! He patented the name so of course we wont see the name elsewhere. Oh wait I think there is a chinese version called ... LSPCT.
Dspyrido- can you elaborate on this statement more? The Chinese have already done a version of realistic Hsingyi training based on training fighters for full contact fighting call LSPCT?
Lu da wrote:Boxer,
Again I am sorry you do not like my opinion on Pattersons book my opinion of the book was not and is not a personal attack on your character or judgement. I have explained why I found the material lacking, you can take that explanation or you can leave it that is entirely up to you.
With regard to the three books mentioned I personally thought the section on santi in combat techniques was the most valuable piece of material in all of the books discussed. That chapter is worth it's weight in gold.
Lu Da,
Your opinions are fine. you did not like the book. you then threw out some insults along the way:
"Save your money, there are books that have the same information and more.""The two person drills look interesting but ultimately it comes off as 'look at the cool shit we are doing' without offering any depth of understanding of xingyi.""looks like xingyi colored tkd. "which you are totally obliged to do insults to a outstanding member of the martial art community. However you hide behind a veil of cowardice to the the statements you make and not revealing who you are. You see there is something called being a
man. In Chinese martial arts there is a saying, "Be a man , before being a martial artist", this is in reference to Wu de, having respect and righteousness. you already lost credibility a while back with those choice statements. A big reason why i have my own forum where people are forced to use their real names and in which Mr. Patterson was a regular contributor. It is not my style to insult martial artists who are authors and have "been there and done that" and then run and hide. maybe you should step up and learn to do the same.
The book with Lu Shenglei (Sp?) "Combat Techniques" was a re-hash of Sun Lutang's book on Hsingyi when he talks about Santi. Exactly what Mr. Patterson was avoiding, having to repeat what was already written in other books. I think his choice audience was his former students (some who have waited 20 years for his book) and people who fight. He did not want to address the following:
1. People who speculate to death the origin and history of Xingyiquan.
2. Woo-woo mysticism bullshitters.
3. Re-hash what had already been written in many other books.
So what that said, I have a question for you, is Tim's book Xingyi colored Brazilian Juijitsu?
if I decide to write a book, I def want to make it unique and not contain the same information written in other books. People want fresh and new ideas and Mr. Pattersons book does that.
Matt (aka Neijia_boxer)