Bodywork wrote:If that's not what you meant then, fine. But stating a bjjer throws like your average tomato is accurate how ? Is sincere how?
So for me, your tomato comment- particularly framed within the context of the discussions that
As for my posts. I sit through any number of posts here in recent years telling internal guys that they can't fight and that the real jewel of their art - internals- doesn't work in a fight. Yes, you're right, I find it annoying.
Bodywork wrote:Ian Cipperly wrote:For the record, I have found bjjer's throws to be pretty weak most of the time, too. But, they are quick to learn and already have some takedowns (I view throws as being different from takedowns). In fact, teaching bjjer's to throw is easier and more fun than teaching people from just about any other background! They work hard and are usually athletic.
I really look forward to the day when I get the opportunity to feel Dan for myself. From what I hear, he has got it in loads.
Maybe I'm just lucky in that the bjjers I meet have such strong backgrounds in other arts and have more MMA goals than simply rolling.
For what its worth most "throws" don't work well in a MMA format either. There was quite a bit of rethinking and retooling to more Greco Roman wrestling throws and various takedowns ( percentage wise) over judo throws in MMA. Note that even shooting has become a much narrower percentage game these days.
Still my overall point was that you can defend/ counter with muscle, technique or counters.
Or
You may be able to defend/ counter with a body that if soft, absorbs a shit load of force and can remain dynamically stable while producing counters without telegraphing. All attributes of internal power.
Dan
Bodywork wrote:Taste of Death wrote:The only way to "grasp" something is to "feel" it. One cannot feel the internal through writings and videos. When one feels the touch of an internal artist than one begins to focus one's practice on that "feeling" not the movements. The movements are just a phenomenon.
Well...yes. Internals are unmistakably diffetent in feel, than normal movement. Problems arise when men who don't have internals ruin the reputation of the value of internals... By fooling themselves into thinking they do. Self delusion is one thing but then they go on to try and fool others. This I'd damaging because they can't deliver anything meaningfully different in feel.
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